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Saturday, November 24. 2007Ex-Chancellor Schmidt: Russia Is Less Dangerous Than United StatesPosted by Joerg Wolf in Transatlantic Relations on Saturday, November 24. 2007
"Helmut Schmidt, the former German chancellor who initiated the US arms buildup against the Soviet Union during his term in office, considers today's Russia to be less dangerous than the United States. This is as surprising as it is provocative," writes Gabor Steingart in Spiegel International and criticizes this analysis. Here is the quote from Schmidt:
Personal comments: I am surprised and disappointed that so many Social Democrats are not concerned about the developments in Russia. It's not just Schmidt, but also Germany's Foreign Minister Steinmeier. And ex-chancellor Schroeder, who is on Gazprom's payroll, criticized Merkel's Russia policy... The picture shows from left to right Richard von Weizsäcker, Ronald Reagan and Helmut Schmidt on 11. June 1982 near Checkpoint Charlie. Trackbacks
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Zyme
- #1 - 2007-11-24 12:06 - (Reply)
In this context it is helpful to hint at the current state the russian defense is in: Comments ()
David
- #2 - 2007-11-24 14:06 - (Reply)
Who is it who has been speaking publicly about "World War III"? Putin or Bush? Comments ()
Joerg
- #2.1 - 2007-11-24 14:21 - (Reply)
Bush made that comment in regard to Iran. Comments ()
SC
- #2.1.1 - 2007-11-24 18:02 - (Reply)
Yes Joerg, subsequent discussions of Bush's comments noted your point as well as the overlapping interests of many other nations in the region, i.e. the PRC. This becomes more salient as any conflict in the region widens. Also, concern regarding Russia's ambition has been cited as one possible reason that Secretary Gates halted the draw down of US forces stationed in Europe. Comments ()
Zyme
- #2.1.1.1 - 2007-11-24 20:21 - (Reply)
"Were the nations of Europe not economically engaged in the later half of the nineteenth and first half of the twentieth century?" Comments ()
SC
- #2.1.1.1.1 - 2007-11-24 21:57 - (Reply)
"That´s right - if you do not include "primary industries" like the arming or the energy sector. Without having them 100% under control, waging a war against the country controlling the other part of the infrastructure would be... rather difficult :)" Comments ()
SC
- #2.1.1.1.1.1 - 2007-11-24 22:11 - (Reply)
And of course, possession of a large military and a suitably aggressive attitude have been known to help in achieving strategic aims . . . short of war. Comments ()
Zyme
- #2.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2007-11-24 23:24 - (Reply)
Of course one cannot prevent irrational wars. So including them into a rational discussion won´t create many results. Comments ()
SC
- #2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2007-11-25 00:42 - (Reply)
"(P)olish crybaby"? Yikes! Zyme, these are your European brethern. Where's the love? :) Comments ()
Zyme
- #2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2007-11-25 02:23 - (Reply)
Although I don´t agree with all points (no wonder, it isn´t short) in this article, it was indeed interesting to read. Thank you for the hint. Comments ()
Joerg
- #2.2 - 2007-11-24 14:37 - (Reply)
David, based on your graduate studies, is there some truth to this statement: Comments ()
Jacob
- #2.2.1 - 2007-11-24 15:00 - (Reply)
Which of the two... Russia or America is in the process of fighting a gratuitous war what has left 1 million+ people dead? Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #2.2.1.1 - 2007-11-24 19:29 - (Reply)
Since the only reliable figures on civilian deaths in Iraq have come from Iraq body Count (65,000-70,000) the I can only assume that the rhetorical question's answer must be Russia with over 200,000 killed (Russian-Chechen Friendship Society) in the two Chechen wars. Comments ()
David
- #2.2.2 - 2007-11-24 21:28 - (Reply)
I cannot see the similarities between Putin's Russia and pre-war Nazi Germany. Do you? Comments ()
Zyme
- #2.3 - 2007-11-24 15:26 - (Reply)
@ David Comments ()
David
- #2.3.1 - 2007-11-24 16:33 - (Reply)
@Zyme Comments ()
Zyme
- #2.3.1.1 - 2007-11-24 20:10 - (Reply)
"In terms of the perceived threat of US power, would you agreed that that the assessment in Europe of the Clinton administration was qualitatively different (ie less reckless/threatening)?" Comments ()
Reid of America
- #3 - 2007-11-25 00:33 - (Reply)
Forget about who is a bigger threat to world peace. Who is a bigger threat to Germany and Europe? Anyone who answers the US is a fool. When the Russians shutdown the natural gas pipelines again to Europe in the middle of winter the US haters will change their attitude. Comments ()
Anonymous
- #4 - 2007-11-25 10:41 - (Reply)
Discovery Institute: Comments ()
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- #5 - 2007-11-25 18:57 - (Reply)
I have read Schmidt's book "Men and Power". I found him to be a sensible man. Comments ()
Fuchur
- #5.1 - 2007-11-26 14:01 - (Reply)
I also liked "Men and Power" ("Menschen und Mächte" in German) very much. Comments ()
Browserspiel
- #6 - 2007-11-28 18:29 - (Reply)
I think noone can give a reliable statement, how dangerous Russia really is. We simply don't know it, as we are not able to read the thoughts of dictator Putin. Comments ()
vitay
- #7 - 2007-12-12 10:17 - (Reply)
Russia is very dangerous, trust me. Just like the USA. WWIII is coming. Good Luck. Comments ()
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