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Afghan Defense Minister Disputes Evidence That Iran Is Arming The Taliban

ABC News' The Blotter:
Despite claims by the United States that there is "irrefutable evidence" that Iran is smuggling weapons to the Taliban in Afghanistan, the Defense Minister of Afghanistan today disputed those claims.
This is to follow up last weekend's post in the Atlantic Review: NATO Accuses Iran of Arming the Taliban.

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Reid of America on :

The reality is that we have no way of knowing whether Iran is supplying arms to the Taliban or if the CIA is engaging in a disinformation campaign. Any appeals to authority on this question are not reliable. As the old saying goes "Those who say don't know and those that know don't say." The question here is will Germany aid the US in it's war with Iran or is Germany going to undermine the US war with Iran? The US is at war with Iran today. Pretensions otherwise are fatuous. Why is Germany still doing business with Iran? Why is Germany doing business with a nation that wants to exterminate Israel and destroy the United States?

Zyme on :

"Why is Germany still doing business with Iran? Why is Germany doing business with a nation that wants to exterminate Israel and destroy the United States?" Because we are no longer America´s vassals! And because we don´t take arab loudmouths that serious ;)

Reid of America on :

Zyme says "Because we are no longer America´s vassals! And because we don´t take arab loudmouths that serious ;)" Germany was never a vassal of America. I believe it was 3 years after the US conquered Germany that full independence was granted. The notion that the US is an imperial power is nonsense. Germany, Western Europe, Japan and Korea are examples that the US is not imperial. The real question is Germany an ally or a rival to the US? If Germany is an ally they will threaten Iran with a complete economic embargo unless they end their nuclear ambitions. If Germany is a rival they will continue their phony diplomatic multi-year appeasement initiaitive.

JW-Atlantic Review on :

@ Reid "Why is Germany doing business with a nation that wants to exterminate Israel and destroy the United States?" It's not the entire Iranian nation that has these plans, but I get your point. My plan for the Iranian nuclear crisis is this: If the US gets ready for serious direct negotiations with Iran (carrots), then the EU should put economic sanctions on Iran (sticks). I have asked the chairman of the German foreign relations committee the other day how big the US pressure on Germany is to end trade. He responded that there is such a "request." I guess, he was euphemistically speaking. He added that ending trade would hit the Iranian people, not the regime. This would lead to a rally around the flag effect, because the regime could claim that the evil West is isolating Iran etc. This will not lead to a change in the Iranian position, he said. Small, but international sanctions are better, because the regime then has a hard time explaining to its people, why Russia and China join the Western efforts. Besides, he believes in incentives. That's basically the German position, i.e. a stronger emphasis on carrotts and a concern about adverse effects from isolation. Some makes sense to me, some is wishful thinking, but so is the US position, i.e. too much hope on sticks. It is wishful thinking that countries like Iran can be bullied into submission, i.e. that Iran will end its nuclear program if the Europeans end trade and the US navy moves closer to the Iranian coast etc. I have never understood why Americans believe that a demonstration of strength (moving the military and some tough rhetoric from the president) will convince other regimes to change their course. Saddam certainly has not etc. What country has changed its policy by a demonstration of US strength? Libya changed because of a combination of military strength and LONG negotiations. No such negotiations with Iran yet. Or Syria etc. Related: [url]http://atlanticreview.org/archives/603-WSJ-How-the-EU-subsidizes-trade-with-Iran.html[/url]

Reid of America on :

The US is offering a huge carrot to the Iranian regime. The carrot is the avoidance of a hot war with the US which will most certainly end with the destruction of the Iranian nuclear program and massive damage to the Iranian military. You forget that Iran broke relations with the US and declared war officially in 1979. You don't give your enemies carrots. Weak nations offer their enemies carrots. The US is superbly positioned to attack Iran. Air bases in Iraq and Afghanistan. A large naval task force in the Gulf. You may not like Bush but he is a man of his word and he has said he will not allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons. The die has been cast. Either Iran backs down or there will be war. The European negotiations have been fruitless and that won't change.

JW-Atlantic Review on :

"The carrot is the avoidance of a hot war with the US" Has not worked so far. Air strikes will only delay the nuclear program. Iran feels very strong. Iran is not concerned about a war with the US, because they know that the US is stuck in Iraq and Afghanistan and does not have enough troops. Iran feels it can cause a lot of trouble for the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. I will write a new post about the chances of a US-Iran war in a few days.. "You may not like Bush but he is a man of his word and he has said he will not allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons." Are you saying that Bush will make a coup in 2009 or 2010 so that he can bomb Iran? ;-) Bush's term ends soon. He won't be able to start a war in his last few months in office. The military and Repubican leadership will prevent that.

Reid of America on :

JW says "Iran feels very strong. Iran is not concerned about a war with the US, because they know that the US is stuck in Iraq and Afghanistan and does not have enough troops." Any attack on Iran would be an Air Force and Navy based attack. There will be no ground based invasion. The Air Force and Navy are not bogged down in Iraq. The US prescence in Iraq and Afghanistan is a huge strategic asset to attack Iran from. An attack by Israel would only delay the Iranian nuclear program. A US attack could completely destroy the nuclear program if desired. The US can bomb Iranian nuclear sites for months and months if necessary. Bush does not need any permission from Congress or the military or the Republican leadership. All he has to do is call his Generals and order the planned attack. The military doesn't second guess the Commander-in-Chief in the US. Iran may pretend to be strong but they have a very weak hand. The only card Iran has to play is the disruption of oil tanker traffic in the Gulf and the Straits of Hormuz. The US knows this very well. That is why any attack on Iran would have to target their naval and missle sites along the entire Gulf coast. If the US attacks Iran the Iranian people will rally around the regime. Once the war is over, if the Iranian military is badly damaged the regime will fall.

pen Name on :

All: The War with US is a definite concern among us, many of us - the general public in Iran - expect a war with US. The war may come at any time between now and the end of Bush presidency. But we are living our lives and have more important day-to-day concerns to be consumed with fear. We are not yet at war with US, should we be at war you can count on us cutting the supply lines from Kuwait to Iraq, and begin grinding the meat that is US forces in Iraq. I expect 15,000 Iranians dead and wounded and upwards of 200 billion dollars worth of damages in the first few weeks of war. I expect the war to continue for months and depending what is targeted in Iran and where the attacks are coming from our retaliation will be against US allies in the Persian Gulf. US will attack all of our assets - both military and non-military - just like the Kosovo War. And we will be ready for it. It will be quite painful but it is the price we are prepared to pay for our political independence. US & EU have 2 and only 2 choices with regards to Iran: A neutral nuclear capable Iran or A hostile nuclear-armed Iran. Carrots and sticks are for donkeys and not for us - make a deal with the Donkey Nation and not with us. And by the way, in case war with Iran, EU can kiss her project in Afghanistan goodbye.

Reid of America on :

Afghanistan and Iraq are not even remotely as important as neutralizing the Iranian Islamist regime and their nuclear ambitions. It could easily be argued that the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq was done to encircle Iran militarily. Pen Name, you say you are prepared for war with the US as a price for independence. Yet the regime you back doesn't respect the independence of other nations. I refer to Israel, Lebanon, Iraq and Afghanistan to name a few. Iran is practicing jihad against the US. Iran wants regional hegemony. The people of Iran have been chanting death to America for 28 years. In other words, the mullahs have provoked the US into war through their belligerent actions.

pen Name on :

We call you the Great Satan and you call us the Axis of Evil so that is tit for tat; business as usual. In regards to the "Death to America" etc. you killed Democracy in Iran to rape our oil resources; what do you expect? Furthermore, you supported Saddam Hussein to the hilt in his war of agression against us from 1980 to 1988, you want us to love you? In regards to Lebanon, it is you who do not respect her independence; you aided and abetted Israel's rape of Lebanon - we only came in afterwards to help the Shia of South Lebanon - the people with whom we have had an enduring relationship for the last 500 years. As for Iraq, we will not permit that country be used as a basis of operations against us ever again. ANd who the hell are you to preach to us about respect for independent nations: You raped Serbia, mined the harbours of Nicaragua, intervened in El Salvador, overthrew the Governments of Dominican Republic, Chile, Guatemala, etc. You cannot neutralize us; power is local and you aerial war will not accomplish your stated aims. And you will suffer pain and harm. You are not invincible. But since you want war, you will get it. pen Name

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