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Resolve, Doubt and Flip-FloppingPosted by Joerg Wolf in Quotes, US Foreign Policy on Tuesday, December 26. 2006
One of John F. Kerry's better one-liners during his presidential campaign in 2004 was: "It's one thing to be certain, but you can be certain and wrong." On December 24, 2006 he picked up on this issue in his Washington Post op-ed "When Resolve Turns Reckless":
There's something much worse than being accused of "flip-flopping": refusing to flip when it's obvious that your course of action is a flop. I say this to President Bush as someone who learned the hard way how embracing the world's complexity can be twisted into a crude political shorthand.Fred Kagan of the American Enterprise Institute calls for flip-flopping as well ("dramatic change"), but his suggestions are very different from Kerry's: "Send more troops to Baghdad and we'll have a fighting chance" is the headline in his Sunday Times commentary. Bertrand Russell's famous quote "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt" seems to be appropriate for the discussions about what to do in Iraq and for both liberal and conservative politicians and journalists. Welcome! You are reading the ATLANTIC REVIEW -- a Press Digest on Transatlantic Relations combined with commentary and analysis by four young professionals from Germany, the Netherlands and the United States. More about us. The horizontal menu bar at the top helps to navigate this site. Subscribe to one of our RSS-Feeds or to our newsletter, which is emailed twice per month.Trackbacks
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Anonymous
- #1 - 2006-12-26 19:38 - (Reply)
Funny. There are worse words to describe Bertrand Russell than 'cocksure'. Did that make him stupid?
David
- #2 - 2006-12-27 02:06 - (Reply)
Well, some of us were "cocksure" that a US invasion of Iraq would be a mistake of monumental proportions. For voicing that opinion we were (and are still,by some) reviled. Turns out we were right from the beginning, and most Americans now agree.
Pat Patterson
- #3 - 2006-12-27 04:31 - (Reply)
"...The state of affairs[man's happiness], but what of it? Really high-minded people are indifferent to happiness, especially other people's". That Bertrand Russell?
2020
- #4 - 2006-12-27 07:24 - (Reply)
Some players can't stop as long they have losses, especially when they told the world about their formidable strategies before. That's all too human. John Kerry smiles and pays. He's the real winner.
mbast
- #5 - 2006-12-27 15:36 - (Reply)
Kerry has a point. Only stupid people never change their mind. Another nice quote by a great Briton: "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject".
Don S
- #7 - 2006-12-28 05:57 - (Reply)
"Only stupid people never change their mind."
Pinkerton
- #8 - 2006-12-28 06:35 - (Reply)
"And only shallow ones change it ever every 2 weeks - if not more frequently than that. Kerry never seemed to understand that you have to make a decision about policy and stick to it long enough to see whether it works or not."
David
- #9 - 2006-12-28 13:25 - (Reply)
I voted for Kerry and worked for his campaign, but I'm afraid Don has a point about him. He never came out with a clear position on Iraq during the campaign. He turned out to be a weak candidate and managed to lose to the worst president in US history.
Pinkerton
- #9.1 - 2006-12-28 15:28 - (Reply)
How was anyone supposed to have a clear position on Iraq when they are being fed false information? Kerry and the rest of the Senate and Congress were given hyped up and outright lies regarding WMD. Kerry can't be blamed for decisions based on false or misleading information.
Moe Levine
- #10 - 2006-12-28 15:34 - (Reply)
The intelligent are not full of doubt about Irag, but they are smart enough to keep their thoughts to themselves. I suspect those thoughts include the following propositions.
JW-Atlantic Review
- #10.1 - 2006-12-30 10:27 - (Reply)
"5) We need to understand that the removal of Saddam Hussein was merely a history accelerating event. The Shite/Sunni conflict was bound to happen. We just made it happen when we were unprepared for it."
Don S
- #10.1.1 - 2006-12-30 18:18 - (Reply)
Including the events of last night, Joerg? ;)
Don S
- #11 - 2006-12-28 22:11 - (Reply)
Should Obama run? Depends upon your perspective.
Pinkerton
- #11.1 - 2006-12-29 03:10 - (Reply)
I also think that Obama on a ticket as VP is a sure win for the Democratic party. It would be best for him to gain some experience and I think whoever puts him on a ticket will use his charisma and ability to talk to both sides of the aisle to their best advantage. I'm just not sure he is ready for prime time, yet. The one thing he does have going for him is the fact that he's a really smart guy who doesn't get trapped easily into giving a bad sound-byte that will come back to haunt him. That has always been Kerry's situation. He was always stuck explaining what he said and that made him look indecisive, even though he really wasn't. The media played him like a fiddle.
Pinkerton
- #11.2 - 2006-12-29 17:23 - (Reply)
"I largely agree with the rest of your post, Pinkerton - but not on this one. The best judgement of dispassionate political science researchers is that the effect of the Veep on the ticket is a very small one, and the effect is quite localised."
influx
- #11.2.1 - 2006-12-29 17:42 - (Reply)
Well, to be fair, George W. Bush did actually agree that there is such a thing as global warming. He just wasn't sure whether it was man-made or a natural process. But then, he also said that the jury is still out on evolution.
Pinkerton
- #11.2.1.1 - 2006-12-29 20:00 - (Reply)
Well, I can see why George is confused on the evolution thing. He still hasn't seemed to evolve from the ape stage, himself. He is trying to master the wheel, however. Pretty soon he'll be able to take the training wheels off his bike.
Don S
- #11.2.2 - 2006-12-30 06:02 - (Reply)
Yes, Pinkerton. I think that Edwards is a palpable phoney. I have no interest in debating whether Bush is also a phoney - we're going to disagree on that til the end of time. But I'll go as far as to agree that politics is full of phonies. But even politicians don't have to go as far in that as John Edwards and Lamar Alexander do....
Don S
- #12 - 2006-12-29 05:28 - (Reply)
"I also think that Obama on a ticket as VP is a sure win for the Democratic party."
Pinkerton
- #13 - 2006-12-29 22:05 - (Reply)
Don S
Don S
- #14 - 2006-12-30 06:06 - (Reply)
"I just FINALLY found that video you were speaking of"
Pinkerton
- #14.1 - 2006-12-30 15:34 - (Reply)
Don
Don S
- #14.1.1 - 2006-12-30 18:14 - (Reply)
Pinkerton.
Pinkerton
- #14.1.1.1 - 2006-12-30 21:35 - (Reply)
Well, Don...if you think this video is supposed to be haunting Edwards for the rest of his career, why is it that You Tube seems to be the place I should look for it? Hell, You Tube also have stupid videos of teenagers making faces into a camera. My point was, that particular video was not on any news programs, only a smattering of right wing nut blogs and that's it. You call that following someone? That's a laugh. Add Comment
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