Don

Really??? Bush has a policy??? LOL! And what's this I hear...Bush doesn't want to sound like he's telling a sovereign country what to do? I guess that is unless there is some oil there, and he can convince everyone they are hiding WMD....even if they aren't.

The good news, however. I heard he did get to slice the pig. I'll sleep better tonight knowing that. ;)

Anonymous

Jon Stuart gets his material from me. ;)

George Bush does make it easy for us, doesn't he?

Rosemary:

Thank you for the apology. To be honest, I have no idea why you became so angry. There was nothing in my post that I thought would stir up such anger.

Now, to answer some of your questions.

As far as the reasons we went to war in Iraq, I'll try to make it simple. First we were told WMD...then no WMD. We were told by Bush he didn't want regime change....then he DID want regime change. The list goes on and on. Now, as far as the question as to why our oil is so high since I said that we went in because of oil, the reason is simple. Bush blew it. Remember how they said that the oil was going to pay for this war? Not happening is it? Have you looked at our debt lately? Have you seen the price in dollars and blood that we are paying for this war?

Things just didn't seem to go as Bush expected and now we are stuck in a quagmire. Something that he was warned would happen by the Pentagon and Colin Powell. There was poor planning from the beginning of this war that was based on lies and incompetent leadership by Donald Rumsfeld.

As far as the oil for food, I couldn't have said it any better than JW.

Rosemary, I agree with you, human rights and people should come before money. And that is why I feel that what Bush did by going to war in Iraq was, and still is, a travesty. All of our fine military who were killed or maimed in this war is Bush's doing. He had no consideration for our troops and no consideration for the families that they have left behind. That is obvious in the amount of cuts he has made in the military benefits since this war has started. Not to mention, the lack of good equipment he sent them into battle with.

And lets not forget about the human rights of the Iraq people who are caught in the middle of this mess that George made. How long do you think it will be before they have their country back? And who is going to pay for the infrastructure? It will be generations before there is any form of normalcy in that country, if there ever is at all.

So, you are right. George Bush is no laughing matter. What he has done to Iraq and to our country isn't funny at all. It's downright scary.

Rosemary

You talk of the "expanded theater". You say we went to war for human rights. Well, Sadaam was not the only leader who treated his people with attrocities. Korea? China? do they ring a bell? And do you suggest we start a pre-emptive war on any leader that we don't feel is running their country according to our vision?

WMD, sure, they found WMD in Iraq. They were old shells, not considered weapons of mass destruction, and they were from the first Gulf War. Some were even old shells that WE sold to them. Not capable of that "mushroom cloud" that Bush and Condi liked to bring up at every opportunity. And if Bush was so hell-bent about finding WMD, he wouldn't have pulled out the inspectors who wanted to stay. Please don't let Fox News limit your knowledge of what was actually found in Iraq.

Violations of UN resolutions. The UN was dealing with this. The US did have Sadaam contained and there was NO threat to the US from Sadaam after the first Gulf War. With the few weapons they had left, they made attempts to shoot down the fly over aircraft, and they were never successful. In fact, the air force laughed at their attempts because they were so lame.

Sadaam tried to kill George's dad. I'm sorry, but if you recall that was already addressed by the US, there was no need to go after Sadaam again for this. In fact, if you recall, George Bush, Sr. didn't think it was a good idea to go into Iraq again and in an interview he said himself that this was not a reason that his son decided to go to war. It played no part whatsoever. Yet, the right wing wants to hold on to this as a viable reason to perform a pre-emptive strike on another country.

He was paying terrorists to kill innocent people. If that is the case, then why didn't Bush bomb the living daylights out of Palestine? Weren't they sending suicide bombers into Isreal, to kill innocent civilians?

And if you want to be a stickler about the WMD, Sadaam welcomed them to come back before the war started. Bush turned him down. Bush was determined to start a war with Iraq from the beginning of his Presidency. Do you remember how he wanted to link Iraq with 911? He just used Afghanistan as a stepping stone to get there.

And if you think that all is well in Afghanistan...look at the news today. The Taliban has taken over two towns. They are NOT being contained.

And what ever happened to Osama? The guy who REALLY had something to do with 911? First George said he wants him dead or alive...then says he isn't really concerned about Osama.

George had so many reasons, that he couldn't concentrate on one??? George kept making up excuses everytime the last one failed to pan out. Therefore, he sent our troops into war without a clear mission, which is why we are failing in this war....this illegal war.

Don

My, you can be rude, can't you? If you would have bothered to read through the thread, my last comments were in answer to Rosemary's questions. And if you recall, it was the very first comment, made by you, that stated Bush had a policy. I found that amusing, since Bush has never had a policy regarding Isreal. Leaving something alone is not a policy, it's avoidance.

You may not like my stance on politics, Don, but at least I've made an effort to answer questions addressed to me without just making insulting attacks on that person. My answer to your first comment wasn't in anyway personally insulting to you.