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Ret. General Zinni on Iraq: "Ten years worth of planning were thrown away"Posted by Joerg Wolf in Quotes on Tuesday, April 4. 2006 In the lead-up to the Iraq war and its later conduct, I saw, at a minimum, true dereliction, negligence, and irresponsibility; at worst, lying, incompetence, and corruption.Former CENTCOM commander retired General Tony Zinni specified these charges at Meet the Press: I knew the intelligence; I saw it right up to the day of the war. I was asked at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing a month before the war if I thought the threat was imminent. I didn't. Many of the people I know that were involved in the intelligence side of this, or, or in the military felt the same way. I saw the -- what this town is known for: spin, cherry-picking facts, using metaphors to evoke certain emotional responses, or, or shading the, the context. We, we know the mushroom clouds and, and the other things that were all described that the media's covered well. I saw on the ground, though, a sort of walking away from 10 years worth of planning.Meet the Press transcript and video. Clip with above quote at Crooks and Liars.
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Olaf Petersen
- #1 - 2006-04-04 11:29 - (Reply)
High times to talk about the thousand mistakes, Condoleezza Rice knows of, high times to talk about wrong analysis, assessments and expectations.
Clarence
- #2 - 2006-04-04 12:04 - (Reply)
Zinni stated "I knew the intelligence; I saw it right up to the day of the war." In fact, he retired in Sept 2000 (per his own website, www.generalzinni.com), so what is the source of his "intelligence"?
Jorg
- #2.1 - 2006-04-04 12:18 - (Reply)
He says he was doing consulting work for the CIA and the military, which makes sense since he was in charge of CENTCOM before. I guess that is the reason why the House asked him to testify.
Franz Hoffmann
- #3 - 2006-04-04 13:01 - (Reply)
Here´s another analysis from the Strategic Studies Institute:
Jorg
- #3.1 - 2006-04-04 13:47 - (Reply)
Franz, thank you.
clarence
- #4 - 2006-04-04 14:53 - (Reply)
Jorg,
Jorg
- #4.1 - 2006-04-04 15:22 - (Reply)
Zinni and I refer to the military plans made in the 90s. Zinni was in charge of CENTCOM till 2000.
clarence
- #5 - 2006-04-04 15:52 - (Reply)
Jorg,
Fuchur
- #5.1 - 2006-04-04 20:36 - (Reply)
@Clarence
Jorg
- #6 - 2006-04-04 16:52 - (Reply)
Let me try one last time. I have quoted Zinni im my post. Please read carefully. Or read the entire transcript or watch the video.
clarence
- #7 - 2006-04-04 17:53 - (Reply)
I did not recommend any study; another person (Franz Hoffman) did so.
David
- #8 - 2006-04-05 01:48 - (Reply)
Thanks for highlighting the views of General Anthony Zinni - a true patriot and a realist. It is a tragedy of US foreign policy under the Bush administration that patriots like Zinni were marginalized as the delusions of the neoconservatives took hold in the White House.
joe
- #9 - 2006-04-05 16:19 - (Reply)
It would seem many here have worked on combined and joint staffs. I say this because of the comments being made about military planning. Equally it would appear your experience is quite different from my own.
Jorg
- #9.1 - 2006-04-05 18:14 - (Reply)
Thank you, Joe!
Chris
- #10 - 2006-04-05 20:51 - (Reply)
Joe knows what he is talking about. That much is clear.
Shawn in Tokyo
- #10.1 - 2006-04-07 00:41 - (Reply)
Chris,
Shawn in Tokyo
- #10.1.1 - 2006-04-07 02:21 - (Reply)
In my first sentence, I said appointed by Zinni. I meant "chosen" as in he personally recommended Franks as his successor, after which Franks was officially appointed to lead CENTCOM.
Bruce Miller
- #11 - 2006-04-05 22:34 - (Reply)
Joerg, I think that you have read Zinni's criticism correctly. And he was right about many of the shortcomings of the prewar plans, especially the failure to plan for the postwar.
Jorg
- #12 - 2006-04-07 12:25 - (Reply)
@ Shawn
Shawn in Tokyo
- #13 - 2006-04-07 16:27 - (Reply)
Jorg, Add Comment
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