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Chicago Tribune: "Germany says 9/11 hijackers called Syria, Saudi Arabia"Posted by Joerg Wolf in Transatlantic Relations, US Foreign Policy on Sunday, March 12. 2006
John Crewdson, senior correspondent of the respectable Chicago Tribune, claims to have obtained a "classified report from the office of German Chancellor Angela Merkel":
According to the report, 206 international telephone calls were known to have been made by the leaders of the hijacking plot after they arrived in the United States -- including 29 to Germany, 32 to Saudi Arabia and 66 to Syria. The calls to Germany are not especially surprising because the plot's organizers, Mohamed Atta, Marwan al-Shehhi and Ziad Jarrah, who moved to Florida to learn to fly passenger jets, had been university students in the northern German city of Hamburg when they were recruited by Al Qaeda. More than four years later, however, the hijackers' connections to Saudi Arabia and Syria are far from fully explained. (...) The German report submitted last week notes that in the days after Sept. 11, Syria and its intelligence service offered their cooperation to the U.S. and West European nations, "comprehensively and without any reservation."The Chicago Tribune published this article on March 8th, but the story was not picked up since then in either the German or the US media to the best of my and Marc's knowledge, who first recommend the article on his American Future. John Crewdson emailed me that he does not know why this is the case either. Although 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, this fact seems to be not that much known in the US public and there have not been significant negative consequences for this non-democratic, oppressive, illiberal country, which ranked fourth (after Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela) as a source of total U.S. oil imports in 2005. The conservative media and some members of the Bush administration have not been very critical of Saudi Arabia, while spreading misinformation and unsubstantiated speculations on Iraq. Consequently the PIPA opinion poll concluded in 2004: A large majority of Bush supporters believes that Iraq was providing substantial support to al Qaeda and that clear evidence of this support has been found. A large majority believes that most experts also have this view, and a substantial majority believe that this was the conclusion of the 9/11 Commission. Large majorities of Kerry supporters believe the opposite on all these points.Related: The US-Saudi relationship: Oil supply at the expense of US security and moral values. The Chicago Tribune puts the phone calls to Syria in the context of Germany's alleged involvement in CIA renditions: The report's disclosure that senior officials in the government of former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder traveled to Syria to participate in the questioning of Zammar is likely to raise further questions within the parliament over Germany's involvement in the CIA's forced relocation of terrorist suspects to countries like Syria, where many say they have been tortured.
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RayD
- #1 - 2006-03-13 00:51 - (Reply)
"The conservative media and some members of the Bush administration have not been very critical of Saudi Arabia, while spreading misinformation and unsubstantiated speculations on Iraq."
Thomas
- #1.1 - 2006-03-13 18:55 - (Reply)
Mrs. Vollmer was visiting Saudi Arabia and dressed according to local customs.
Jorg
- #2 - 2006-03-13 10:22 - (Reply)
Ray, thanks for stopping by. QUOTE Wash Post: Bush, speaking to troops in Tampa yesterday, did not mention an Iraq-al Qaeda link, saying only that Iraq "sheltered terrorist groups." That was a significantly milder version of the allegations administration officials have made since shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. In late 2001, Cheney said it was "pretty well confirmed" that Sept. 11 mastermind Mohamed Atta met with a senior Iraqi intelligence official before the attacks, in April 2000 in Prague; Cheney later said the meeting could not be proved or disproved. Bush, in his speech aboard an aircraft carrier on May 1, 2003, asserted: "The liberation of Iraq is a crucial advance in the campaign against terror. We've removed an ally of al Qaeda and cut off a source of terrorist funding." In September, Cheney said on NBC's "Meet the Press": "If we're successful in Iraq . . . then we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11." Speaking about Iraq's alleged links to al Qaeda and the Sept. 11 attacks, Cheney connected Iraq to the 1993 World Trade Center bombing by saying that newly found Iraqi intelligence files in Baghdad showed that a participant in the bombing returned to Iraq and "probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven." He added: "The Iraqi government or the Iraqi intelligence service had a relationship with al Qaeda that stretched back through most of the decade of the '90s." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47812-2004Jun16.html Sure, I know Scharping spread misinformation concerning Kosovo. That is another topic. Feel free to mention a link to one of your posts on this one. I wonder whether you acknowledge in those posts that Americans have spread misinformation as well on Iraq.
Shawn in Tokyo
- #3 - 2006-03-13 15:02 - (Reply)
I think the most frustrating thing for most of us trying to get a handle on Iraq's true impact in the region before and after 9/11 is that we have such poor information to make a true black/white decision. It is all in the "kinda" realm of gray uncertainty. Thus it is quite easy to fumble through arguments.
Jorg
- #4 - 2006-03-13 15:31 - (Reply)
Shawn, QUOTE Ehrenfeld: The U.S. National Intelligence Reform Act of December 2004 requires development of a Presidential strategy to confront Islamic extremism, in collaboration with Saudi Arabia. So far, says a September Government Accounting Office (GAO) report, U.S. agencies have been unable to determine the extent of Saudi Arabia’s domestic and international cooperation. (...) Under U.S. pressure, Saudi Arabia declared repeatedly that it would close some charities identified as spreading Wahhabism and funding terrorism. However, the GAO report notes that “in May 2005, ...it was unclear whether the government of Saudi Arabia had implemented its plans.” Despite Saudi promises to establish a new National Commission for Relief and Charity Work Abroad, the GAO said: “as of July 2005, this commission was not yet fully operational.” At least two members of the Saudi government, Riyadh Governor Prince Salman and Minister of Defense Prince Sultan, are sponsors of the Saudi High Commission, which evidence in the 9/11 victims lawsuits shows “has long acted as a fully integrated component of al-Qaeda’s logistical and financial support infrastructure.” Moreover, the lawsuits detail that “the Sept. 11 attacks were a direct, intended and foreseeable product of [the High Commission’s] participation in al-Qaeda’s jihadist campaign.” Read it all: http://atlanticreview.org/archives/153-The-US-Saudi-relationship-Oil-supply-at-the-expense-of-US-security-and-moral-values.html Both Europe and the US should severely pressure Saudi Arabia to cooperate in the war on terrorism. Chirac's recent trip wasn't helpful. He was rhetorical so tough on terrorist states and mentioned the nuclear option for retaliation. He meant Iran, but he should have meant the KSA as well. We should not be tough on Iran only, and forget about Saudi Arabia, I believe.
Chris
- #5 - 2006-03-13 18:40 - (Reply)
Shawn wrote:
Alex
- #6 - 2006-03-13 20:04 - (Reply)
Iraq and 9-11: What grey uncertainty is there?
Shawn in Tokyo
- #7 - 2006-03-13 23:18 - (Reply)
My point wasn't that it should be black/white. My point is that it can't be made black/white either way. Those that say that the Bush Administration is trying to make it too black/white are doing the same but it in the opposite direction.
Jorg
- #8 - 2006-03-13 23:52 - (Reply)
Shawn,
Shawn in Tokyo
- #9 - 2006-03-14 01:41 - (Reply)
Jorg,
rocko
- #10 - 2006-03-15 15:38 - (Reply)
This is an excellent blog and exactly what i was looking for in berlin. Your discussions are very interesting.
Kathy - At the Zoo
- #11 - 2006-03-16 01:46 - (Reply)
Those polls don’t ask people where they got the idea that Saddam Hussein was involved with the 9/11 attacks. I know where they didn’t get it – from the American government.
Jorg
- #12 - 2006-03-16 02:03 - (Reply)
Why do many Bush voters (but hardly any Kerry voters) think Saddam was involved in 9/11?
Kathy - At the Zoo
- #12.1 - 2006-03-18 03:34 - (Reply)
Jorg,
Rosemary
- #13 - 2006-03-16 09:38 - (Reply)
Note: This is an e-mail I sent to Joerg which I was encourged to post it here in the comment section. Please don't be too rough on me. lol.
Fuchur
- #14 - 2006-03-16 11:03 - (Reply)
Kathy,
Kathy - At the Zoo
- #14.1 - 2006-03-18 03:53 - (Reply)
Yes there is raw and unfiltered news. C-SPAN. You get the whole speech, the UN Security Council session, the think tank presentation, the press briefing, etc. Not whatever sound bite Dan Rather feels like making of it.
Ray D
- #15 - 2006-03-19 05:05 - (Reply)
Hi Jorg,
Jorg
- #16 - 2006-03-19 13:06 - (Reply)
Ray, QUOTE GAO: For example, in July 2005, a Treasury official testified before Congress that Saudi Arabia-based and - funded organizations remain a key source for the promotion of ideologies used by terrorists and violent extremists around the world to justify their agenda. In addition, according to State’s 2005 International Narcotics Control Strategy Report, Saudi donors and unregulated charities have been a major source of financing to extremist and terrorist groups over the past 25 years. In July 2003, a former State Department official testified before Congress that a Saudi-based charity, al Haramain Islamic Foundation, had allegedly financed assistance to the Egyptian terrorist group Gamma al Islamia. In May 2004, the same former State official also testified that some half dozen of the most visible charities, including two of Saudi Arabia’s largest, the International Islamic Relief Organization and the World Muslim League, have been linked to supporting Islamic terrorist organizations globally. In addition, a former Treasury official identified Wa’el Hamza Julaidan as a senior figure in the Saudi charitable community who provided financial and other support to several terrorist groups affiliated with al Qaeda operating primarily in the Balkans. Moreover, the 9/11 Commission report states that al Qaeda raised money in Saudi Arabia directly from individuals and through charities. Here's another quote from the second page of the GAO report: QUOTE GAO: The Saudi government has announced and, in some cases, undertaken some reform efforts to address Islamic extremism. For example, the government is undertaking educational and religious reforms, including revising textbooks and conducting a 3-year enlightenment program, to purge extremism and intolerance from religious education. However, U.S. agencies do not know the extent of the Saudi government’s efforts to limit the activities of Saudi sources that have allegedly propagated Islamic extremism outside of Saudi Arabia. http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05852.pdf Why don't U.S agencies know the extent of the Saudi governments efforts? Why isn't the US insisting that the Saudis get straight and honest with their main ally and protector, i.e. the US of A? We are in a global war on terrorism! You should not have so much patience with Saudi Arabia. The Conclusion from the Government Accountability Office: QUOTE GAO: Recognizing that the global propagation of Islamic extremism represents a growing threat to U.S. interests, U.S. agencies are implementing a variety of efforts to identify, monitor, and counter its support and funding. Agencies’ efforts focus on Saudi Arabia but also attempt to address the propagation of Islamic extremism worldwide. Despite the lack of a common definition for Islamic extremism, several agencies are working to counter it by addressing the underlying conditions that facilitate extremism—for example, through programs aimed at humanitarian assistance, educational reform, economic assistance, public diplomacy, and governance, including the promotion of democracy and respect for human rights. Determining the resources that agencies have committed for these efforts is complicated by the fact that the agencies do not disaggregate data for some of their activities addressing Islamic extremism from their broader efforts or goals, such as force protection, counterterrorism, and public diplomacy. However, since the attacks on the United States in September 2001, some agencies’ officials told us they have been devoting increasing resources to addressing the global propagation of Islamic extremism. Moreover, since the May 2003 bombing in Riyadh, the government of Saudi Arabia, with some assistance from the United States, has announced and, in some cases, reportedly undertaken a number of reform efforts to address Islamic extremism, including educational, religious, legal, and political reforms. Do you feel save knowing that Saudi Arabia "has announced and, in some cases, reportedly undertaken a number of reform efforts"??? Does this sound like they are doing all they can? Does this sound like the anti-terrorism cooperation that is needed to win the war on terror? I think the State Department staff is doing a great job on Saudi Arabia. I wish our AA would be as outspoken. For example the latest Human Rights Report from the State Department mentions QUOTE State: On November 14, a court in Qassim Province ordered 750 lashes, as well as a prison sentence of 40 months and a ban from teaching for Muhammad al-Harbi, a high school chemistry teacher, reportedly after accusations of "trying to sow doubt in a student's creed" by speaking positively about his views on Christianity, Judaism, and analyzing the causes of terrorism (see sections 1.e. and 2.a.). There was domestic as well as international media attention to the case and the sentences were not carried out because the king pardoned al-Harbi in December. http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61698.htm The Senate Committee on the Judiciary had a hearing on "Saudi Arabia: Friend or Foe in the War on Terror?" on November 1, 2005. Several experts gave testimony, which you can read on the Senate homepage. There are also the statements from two Democratic Senators. Where are the Republicans? Why did not they tell us their view of whether Saudi Arabia is a friend or a foe? I am lacking some knowledge on proceedings in the Senate: How do Senate hearings work? Are they often partisan plots, i.e. one party sets up an hearing to embarrass the others? Or do both parties have to agree on an agenda before a hearing takes place? This is what Senator Pat Leahy said at the hearing: QUOTE Senate: Despite the [9/11-] Commission’s recommendation, we have done little to openly confront the problems in the U.S.–Saudi relationship. Critical information about the role of the Government of Saudi Arabia before and after September 11, and its level of cooperation with U.S. law enforcement agencies, before and after, has not been revealed to the public. Despite an outcry from Republican and Democratic Senators, alike, for the release of information, the Administration has denied the public its right to know these crucial facts. This is most evident in the refusal of the Executive Branch to declassify all or part of the 28 pages relating to Saudi Arabia in the Joint Intelligence Committee from July 2003. (...) Meanwhile, this Administration refuses to confront the Saudi government’s role in promoting Islamic extremism. Particularly troubling has been the Saudi government’s lavish funding of religious schools, or madrasas, throughout the region that propagate extreme forms of Islam and advocate hatred and violence. These Saudi-funded madrasas threaten the existence of more moderate beliefs and practices in the Muslim world and foster anti-Western and anti-Semitic sentiments. Offering food, lodging, and a free education, madrasas have spread rapidly throughout the region, often calling on Muslims to fight non-believers and stand against what they see as the moral depravity of the West. More troubling is the strong link between madrasas and terrorist financing. It is widely known that the Saudi government has permitted and even encouraged fundraising by charitable Islamic groups and foundations that have been linked to known terrorist organizations. Although the Saudi government has announced restrictions to private charity organizations and relief groups sending funds overseas, the strict regulation of these restrictions remains to be seen. The President condemns many of the repressive policies of Arab nations, but seems to have an obvious blind spot when it comes to Saudi Arabia. In a speech last month, the President noted that “the influence of Islamic radicalism is magnified by helpers and enablers. [Terrorists] have been sheltered by authoritarian regimes – allies of convenience like Syria and Iran. … The United States makes no distinction between those who commit acts of terror and those who support and harbor them because they are equally guilty of murder.” Despite this strong rhetoric, President Bush and Secretary Rumsfeld praise Saudi Arabia, a monarchy that has done more to promote Islamic extremism and discourage the emergence of moderate Muslim leaders than any nation. http://judiciary.senate.gov/member_statement.cfm?id=1669&wit_id=2629 *Ray,* why do we know so little about the 9/11 hijackers from Saudi Arabia? Why wasn't the Chicago Tribune article (the topic of my post) quoted in the German and US press? You wrote: "As far as 9/11 goes, did Bush ever state that Saddam was behind the attacks?" Why do you and Kathy focus on Bush? All I wrote in my post was: "The conservative media and some members of the Bush administration have not been very critical of Saudi Arabia, while spreading misinformation and unsubstantiated speculations on Iraq." And I presented quotes from Cheney, who spoke of Iraq as the "geographic base" of the 9/11 terrorists. One Bush quote I presented was "We've removed an ally of al Qaeda." As far as I know the word "ally" is quite strong in the English language. You wrote: "Whether the Bush people were intentionally trying to "mislead" with their comments or just inadequately informed is another question. That is an important distinction that has to be made here. Accussing someone of "misleading" others implies malicious intent and should be used with great care, which is why we have not done so at DMK." Ray, what are you talking about? I did not use the word "misleading." I wrote "while spreading misinformation and unsubstantiated speculations", which does not imply a malicious intent. I think many members of the first Bush administration really believed in every thing they said about Iraq. Ray, I think you are a good guy, who works very hard against the German media bias and sloppy journalism and I like your blog, but now you are apparently making false accusations against me. Who do you mean by "Accussing someone of "misleading" others implies malicious intent and should be used with great care"??? By putting quotation marks at the word "misleading", you give the impression that I used the word "misleading", which I did not. "Anyway, I always had the impression that the government believed it was OBL and Al-Qaeda from nearly the beginning." Yes, but hours after the 9/11 attacks, Donald Rumsfeld asked his aides to look for evidence of Iraqi involvement, according to notes taken by Stephen Cambone, now undersecretary of defence for intelligence. http://atlanticreview.org/archives/272-Politicization-of-the-Intelligence-Process.html "Why so many Americans believe in a direct Saddam connection to 9/11 without clear evidence is a problem and may be linked to the comments you cited above. I think those numbers are shrinking though." Do you think the American public would have supported Operation Iraqi Freedom, if the Bush administration had told them only about Saddam's many horrible mass graves and the need to spread democracy in the Middle East? Or if Bush had not used those 16 words about Uranium from Niger in the State of the Union? I am still wondering why so many Bush supporters, but only a few Kerry supporters and only a few Europeans believed that Iraq was involved in 9/11... (Some Germans believe the CIA was involved in 9/11, which is really crazy, but that is another topic.)
Rosemary
- #16.1 - 2006-03-19 23:34 - (Reply)
Dear Jorg,
David
- #17 - 2006-03-19 13:44 - (Reply)
Bush supporters tend to get their news from the (Murdoch-owned) Fox News Network, which is a propaganda organ for the Bush Administration. In 2002 and early 2003 Fox News viewers were presented with a constant stream of images of Dick Cheney talking about Saddam's "reconstituted nuclear weapons program", Condoleezza Rice warning of an Iraqi "mushroom cloud", and continuous reports on those ominous "aluminum tubes". Even today Fox News viewers are told that things are going splendidly in Iraq, while Cheney talks about the insurgency as being in the "last throes". Any problems in Iraq are the result of the "liberal media". A significant portion of the American populace chooses to remain ignorant (about 34%, according to recent polls).
Rosemary
- #17.1 - 2006-03-19 23:40 - (Reply)
Dear David,
Ray D.
- #18 - 2006-03-19 18:17 - (Reply)
"Do you feel save knowing that Saudi Arabia "has announced and, in some cases, reportedly undertaken a number of reform efforts"???
Ray D.
- #19 - 2006-03-19 18:32 - (Reply)
@ Joerg,
Thomas
- #20 - 2006-03-20 23:39 - (Reply)
@ Kathy, Add Comment
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