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Thursday, November 17. 2005The Guantanamo detainee from GermanyPosted by Editors in Transatlantic Relations on Thursday, November 17. 2005 One of the more than 500 detainees at Guantanamo is the 23 years old Murat Kurnaz, who was born and raised in Bremen in northern Germany. He travelled to Pakistan in October 2001, was arrested shortly afterwards and detained at Guantanamo Bay since at least January 2002, because a military panel ruled that he was a member of Al Qaeda. However, according to a March 2005 article in The Washington Post:
According to a Wall Street Journal article from January 2005, Murat Kurnaz isn't an isolated case: American commanders acknowledge that many prisoners shouldn't have been locked up here in the first place because they weren't dangerous and didn't know anything of value. "Sometimes, we just didn't get the right folks," says Brig. Gen. Jay Hood, Guantanamo's current commander."
In February 2005 the Atlantic Review quoted a Boston Globe article about a case in which Guantanamo interrogations helped the German police. According to the above mentioned Washington Post article, U.S. District Judge Joyce Hens Green ruled that the tribunals are "illegal, unfairly stacked against detainees and in violation of the Constitution" and criticized the military panel for ignoring the exculpatory information that dominates Kurnaz's file and for relying instead on a brief, unsupported memo filed shortly before Kurnaz's hearing by an unidentified government official. The Bush administration has appealed her decision. Currently the Court of Appeals contemplates the case. The next post in the Atlantic Review deals with attempts to limit the access of Guantanamo detainees to federal courts. Murat Kurnaz is the son of Turkish Gastarbeiters and does not have German citizenship. Therefore the German government does not make diplomatic representations on his behalf. The Turkish government originally viewed Murat Kurnaz as "German-Turkish" and has shown little interest in pressuring the US government over Murat Kurnaz’ case, writes Amnesty International.
David at Dialog International argues that "Murat Kurnaz is a man without a country, so he is in need of our support." He has written to his Senator in Maine and urges you to take action as well. Amnesty International has information about Murat Kurnaz in German and in English. The German site calls for sending appeals to President Bush. The English site calls for sending appeals to an official in the city government of Bremen. Under a headline asking "Guantanamo: Gulag or vacation resort?" he describes seeing prisoners, well hydrated with gatorade, playing soccer (and not evening pausing their game at the call to prayer), snacking on California strawberries and Milky Way bars, and making jokes with their guards. Every effort is made to make their incarceration comfortable - prison cooks look up Afghan and Arab recipes on the internet, guards are prohbited from even touching prisoners' Korans, and during Ramadan meals are served before sunrise or after sunset - even the force-feeding of prisoners on hunger strikes only takes place at night. (...) Gadziński sees little at the camp to upset him about this "vital bastion in the war on terror." He describes a friendly staff, respect for prisoners (all of whom, we are reminded, are dangerous terrorists) and clean, spacious conditions (the article is illustrated with slides of the spartan by spic-and-span cells). It's clear that on the gulag vs. vacation resort question, he's been decisively persuaded to the resort side. The issue at stake however, is not how bad Guantanomo is or isn't, but whether indefinite detention without charge violates American values and undermines US efforts to find more governmental and non-governmental partners in the war on terror.
The Washington Post prints an op-ed by a lawyer representing Guantanamo Bay prisoners:
More criticism at Transparent Grid, Outsider, Menschenrechte, Streiflicht, IO ERROR, Discourse, Meade's Maxim, and chez Nadezhda. Comments
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Brigitte
- #1 - 2005-11-18 02:45 - (Reply)
Interesting that you mention the Nuremberg trials of Nazi war criminals. Comments ()
steve
- #2 - 2005-12-01 02:29 - (Reply)
Undoubtedly, some of the detainees at Guantanamo are unfortunates who got swept up erroneously or because of local feuds. That is one of the problems with enemies who choose to fight out of uniform and to hide among civilians--it makes it hard to target enemies and not innocents. The whole purpose of the Geneva Conventions is to encourage armies to fight in the open and according to the rules, rewarding those who do with better treatment. Rewarding non-uniformed enemies by giving them extra privileges over uniformed POWs is therefore especially pernicious. Comments ()
Joerg W
- #2.1 - 2005-12-24 12:39 - (Reply)
Not all Guantanamo detainees were captured on the battlefield. Murat Kurnaz certainly was not. Comments ()
steve
- #3 - 2005-12-27 22:45 - (Reply)
On the laws of war and illegal combatants, the following article is pretty clear, although I am not a lawyer and cannot independently judge the scholarship. The last footnote discusses the tradition of summary execution of illegal combatants. Comments ()
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