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Tuesday, May 11. 2010The Euro Comes of AgePosted by Andrew Zvirzdin in International Economics on Tuesday, May 11. 2010
Sixteen months ago, I began to grow worried about Greece's debt problems and its implications for the euro. At the time, I wrote,
The euro area has yet to demonstrate its cohesiveness when confronted with the growing economic divergence of its member states and even the specter of a sovereign debt default....Leaders will have to act together to show their commitment to preserving the single monetary policy in the euro area.Yesterday, EU leaders rose to the challenge and solidified the euro's position in world monetary affairs. The announced $1 trillion package does more than provide indebted countries with a source of funds during periods of crisis; it demonstrates the commitment of leaders to the concept of European integration. In so doing, European officials have significantly increased the credibility of the EU in the eyes of their American counterparts and taken the first step towards some degree of fiscal integration. A few details of the announced aid package are particularly noteworthy: First, the ECB will directly purchase eurozone bonds, reversing a strong position it had taken in December. The move gives the ECB significant discretion and authority but also introduces political complexities far beyond its once simple inflation mandate. I called the ECB "Scrooge" when they categorically rejected to enter the secondary bond market in December; what ghost of fiscal crisis future did they see to make them change their minds now?
Second, the IMF has a prominent role in the aid package. I find this significant because it introduces an important transatlantic dimension to sovereign debt crises. As the market fluctuations of the past few weeks have demonstrated, a sovereign debt crisis in one country affects everyone. Those with longer institutional memories will of course remember the debt crises of Argentina and Mexico. The difference now is the aid money is being contributed to a pooled insurance fund for an international organization. I think this will set an important precedent for the future. Third, the European Commission is contributing money to the fund. Sure, it is only a measly $60 billion, but this is an important signal. For the first time that I am aware of, the Commission has a federal role in fiscal policy. The lack of a fiscal transfer mechanism in the EU is the primary reason why economists such as Martin Feldstein and Paul Krugman have been so dismissive of the euro project up to now. If the Commission is successful in its contribution here, this could mark the beginning for more forays into fiscal federalism. Fourth, and perhaps most importantly, this "bailout" will have huge political ramifications. Like the TARP plan in the US two years ago, the EU rescue plan will agitate populist and conservative sentiment. In Europe however, there will also be an additional level of discontent aimed against "creeping EU federalism." Just yesterday, Angela Merkel's party suffered dramatically in regional elections in large part because of her leadership on the Greece debt crisis. Do European leaders have the political capital to justify their role in bailing out Greece without losing political power? Could we see an anti-EU backlash throughout European countries who have their fiscal house in order? I believe the issue of EU federalism will be a defining element in national elections in Europe during the next five years. It is still early, but the EU rescue plan seems to be a game-changer. The markets seem to believe so. And though the measures are supposed to be temporary, they nonetheless represent a firm commitment to keep the eurozone cohesive. Frankly, I cannot imagine any other tenable option. Trackbacks
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Pat Patterson
- #1 - 2010-05-11 05:05 - (Reply)
But as it turns out the kind of massive bank bailout that the EU and the IMF are striving for has backfired in the US. Many of the even minor players who voted for the bailout are now facing grassroots opposition to their reelection. And the targets are not simply Democrats in red districts or states but even, withness Gov Crist and Sen Bennett, areas that are supposedly moderate and safe seat for Republican incumbents. I suspect if the German public is unhappy now just wait until the next round of elections. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #2 - 2010-05-11 05:39 - (Reply)
http://ampedstatus.com/the-financial-oligarchy-reigns-democracys-death-spiral-from-greece-to-the-united-states Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #2.1 - 2010-05-11 15:47 - (Reply)
SO what you're saying is that it's all about outsiders rubbing their hands insideously, and that a financial "fortress Europe" a la anti-globalization fanticists would be a prosperous Eurozone. Ridiculous. Who would they trade their overpriced, ueber-goods with? Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #2.1.1 - 2010-05-11 16:36 - (Reply)
you are more intelligent than the experts, and we need your science Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #2.1.1.1 - 2010-05-11 16:44 - (Reply)
I never said any such thing. What you're trying to tell me is that the people who imagine that simply NOT RATING anything will magically become better are the experts? Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #2.1.1.1.1 - 2010-05-11 16:57 - (Reply)
never said so, but you said that I said it, when I just brought links, must be your desir to prove that I'm wrong, or your love for me ! LMAO Comments ()
Andrew Zvirzdin
- #3 - 2010-05-11 05:51 - (Reply)
Two articles from the New York Times add some important extra details and questions about the rescue package: Comments ()
John in Michigan, US
- #3.1 - 2010-05-12 22:23 - (Reply)
I read your links. (it would sure help if they were hyperlinks!) It turns out it wasn't just the Journal, the NY Times also says “shock and awe” in quotes. So, some politician must have said it but we still don't know who. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #3.1.1 - 2010-05-12 23:57 - (Reply)
I don't to be Cassandra, but May-be, that also explains why Obama pressed on Merkel for the big EU plan, that wasn't on board before the black thursday. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #4 - 2010-05-11 07:14 - (Reply)
there is no end to this vicious circle, only the abandon of the euro, will make the economical engine of Europe restart ! and just keep the euro as a exchange money only for the banks Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #4.1 - 2010-05-11 15:34 - (Reply)
It isn't doomed at all. The central bank funding committment will result in the equivalent to simply printing more money. While tje ECB was willfully structured to avoid that kind of thing, and David can speak to this with more authority than I can, it's one of the only levers a central bank has to rebuild confidence. Comments ()
David
- #5 - 2010-05-11 14:47 - (Reply)
Very good piece. The EU did finally do the right thing and even Angela Merkel came out passionately (much too late) for the eurozone. Still, there is an uneasy feeling that the massive bailout just kicks the can down the road. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #5.1 - 2010-05-11 16:39 - (Reply)
""This is some kind of morphine that stabilizes the patient -- and the real medication and the real treatment has to come.” Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #6 - 2010-05-11 16:52 - (Reply)
comment #59 Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #6.1 - 2010-05-11 17:29 - (Reply)
[i]"While I still hold this opinion, I believe it is only part of the story. The real culprit, I feel, is how management makes decision based upon incomplete information during market bubbles."[/i] Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #6.1.1 - 2010-05-12 01:18 - (Reply)
"This entire article which you've cut and pasted in is about the US housing bubble, and the way government policy increased the risk, NOT soverign debt or backstoping banks" Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #6.1.1.1 - 2010-05-12 14:25 - (Reply)
So what you're trying to say is that if Europeans' assets are involved, the data must be undermined to improve the pride of the participants, even based on an individuals' opinion about the risk modelling of a vast array of home loans on another continent, based on no evidence that it's used at add up (lesser in number and larger in value, professionally managed) bank loans in Europe. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #7 - 2010-05-12 01:08 - (Reply)
STRATFOR's newest Geopolitical Weekly by George Friedman - The Global Crisis of Legitimacy http://bit.ly/cSkqGK Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #7.1 - 2010-05-12 01:39 - (Reply)
Interesting posts by George Friedman at StratFor but what exactly do either have to do Andrew's argument? It's like watching confetti being tossed in the air and then trying to divine the intent by examaming which side landed face up. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #7.1.1 - 2010-05-12 19:23 - (Reply)
just a bit of light onto what is the reality in EU, that you criticised so much before ! Comments ()
John in Michigan, US
- #8 - 2010-05-12 14:27 - (Reply)
Andrew, Comments ()
Andrew Zvirzdin
- #8.1 - 2010-05-12 15:47 - (Reply)
John, Comments ()
John in Michigan, US
- #8.1.1 - 2010-05-13 02:36 - (Reply)
"does Maastricht even matter anymore" Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #8.2 - 2010-05-12 17:09 - (Reply)
http://www.cnbc.com/id/37084075 Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #9 - 2010-05-12 23:13 - (Reply)
why is Deutsches bank going to probe too ? W Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #10 - 2010-05-13 00:20 - (Reply)
Amazing, the good pupil was cheating: Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #11 - 2010-05-13 02:02 - (Reply)
I imagine that the average German is probably more than a little upset that, especially with Italy and Greece, they are guaranteeing loans French banks made. In fact of the three creditor nations involved with the PIIGs France holds the largest amount of loans by well over $211 billion. France $911 billion, Germany $704 billion and the UK $398 billion. So in this case the Euro zone basically consists of German and to a much lesser extent the UK being called upon to act on their "European" solidarity to bail out not only the PIIGs (it's inevitable) But their own and the French lenders as well. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #11.1 - 2010-05-13 03:22 - (Reply)
your fairness is obvious Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #11.1.1 - 2010-05-13 04:50 - (Reply)
That's why I provided a link rather than simply respond with hurt feelings. Complain to the NYT if you don't like the figures. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #11.1.1.1 - 2010-05-13 05:20 - (Reply)
I know this link, I provided it a few times on discussions boards Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #11.1.2 - 2010-05-13 04:53 - (Reply)
as far as Britain, she already refused to participate, but I have also read that she is in the speculators collimator, so urgency made that she didn't want to add more debt to her debt, and above all, she wouldn't have been able to negociate it a good rate. And as she isn't in the eurozone... Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #11.1.2.1 - 2010-05-13 05:06 - (Reply)
Britain is part of the IMF and will pay a percentage of the IMF package and rewrite part of the Greek debt to specifically immunize some of the British banks. They may not be in the Eurozone but they will provide bailout money. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #11.1.2.1.1 - 2010-05-13 05:22 - (Reply)
like we are, like Germany and a few other EU countries Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #11.1.3 - 2010-05-13 14:56 - (Reply)
As opposed to your view where the world must arrange itself in such a way because it owes France, or YOU something? Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #12 - 2010-05-13 05:26 - (Reply)
I have read that the hunting party for gold and silver is hot, and the sources are dry, each country that had the possibility to buy some on the markets have already done it. Comments ()
Andrew Zvirzdin
- #13 - 2010-05-13 19:34 - (Reply)
Here's an excellent idea that also makes Maastricht viable: http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/13/preventing-future-debt-crises-in-europe/ Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #13.1 - 2010-05-13 20:53 - (Reply)
But won't this have to mean that the Maastricht Treaty itself will have to be renotiated? And I doubt that too many nations, especially as the rightward creep continues, will simply so OK without demanding some form of referendum on this change. Plus how can rates be fixed on bonds unless there are enough buyers for face value or for those that are still shorting the Euro. Which in turns creates would create enough inflation to make the bonds only slightly less than toxic. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #14 - 2010-05-13 21:19 - (Reply)
uh, one more "economist" idea ! Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #15 - 2010-05-19 03:06 - (Reply)
bad news for the euro Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #15.1 - 2010-05-19 14:47 - (Reply)
It isn't the end of the world. As I said before, it's a correction. Pointy heads for the past year have been howling that an inflated Euro makes the Eurozone uncompetative, and it has. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #16 - 2010-05-22 08:24 - (Reply)
http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/109581/are-german-banks-short-the-euro Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #16.1 - 2010-05-22 13:19 - (Reply)
Beware of articles that begin paragraphs containing the words "Some observers,"Some financial experts," or continue with a liberal sprinklings of maybes for not having much beyond hedged opinions. And quoting from unsourced unanymous comments? Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #16.1.1 - 2010-05-22 13:30 - (Reply)
hmm, no this person knows well Germany and is American Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #16.2 - 2010-05-24 15:34 - (Reply)
Actually, anyone in their right mind is short the Euro, at least this week. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #17 - 2010-05-23 17:15 - (Reply)
http://seekingalpha.com/article/205794-der-tarp-germany-is-hiding-a-big-banking-problem Comments ()
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