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Monday, April 5. 2010Germany as Maya the BeePosted by Joerg Wolf in German Politics, International Economics on Monday, April 5. 2010
Laurson and Pieler criticize the "concept of economics as a zero-sum game, i.e. France may only gain at Germany's expense" which "is so woefully outdated that one must wonder how Europe ever got as far is it did, economically. It utterly disregards the fact that competition doesn't weaken but strengthens economies." It's good to see some support for Germany's economic policies at a time when Germany is criticized as the new bad boy and especially in the Wall Street Journal, which is rarely supportive. And it is quite sweet that Germany, formerly known as the "sick man of Europe" is now seen as the curious busy bee Maya, who's colors even represent the new coalition government of CDU (black) and FDB (yellow). Though, then again, the fable of Maya the Bee originally published in 1912 "lauds German nationalism. Maya represents the ideal citizen, and the beehive represents a well-organized militarist society," according to Wikipedia's know-it-alls. So maybe the comparison is not so charming after all. Moreover, Laurson and Pieler agree with Finance Minister Lagarde regarding "one economic truth" and that is: "Germany should cut taxes. But it should do so for its own good, to promote more economic growth." Oh no, not again. Cutting taxes is the standard advice Germany got from America for decades, even though we have lowered plenty of taxes, especially of top earners, over the last twenty years. Such advice is neither helpful nor original and creative. As long as tax cuts lead to higher debts, it's not feasible. Higher taxes are needed to pay off the debt. Both Germany's finance minister and the federal president, who used to run the IMF, ruled out further substantial tax cuts. Furthermore, there is not much more to cut in government budgets. Both the US and the Germany have a high level of debt that is not sustainable. More and more experts believe the US (and eventually the Eurozone) will tolerate high inflation and devaluation in order to deal with the debt crisis in the long run. Everybody who cares about the savings of the middle class should be concerned about that. ENDNOTE: This is the 1111th post since this blog started more than five years ago. :-) Trackbacks
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Joerg Wolf
- #1 - 2010-04-05 13:37 - (Reply)
Another reason why we can't cut taxes: Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #1.1 - 2010-04-06 16:35 - (Reply)
I have been listening to this "our infrastructure is falling apart" mantra for 20 years. During those 20 years, we have done nothing but replace bridges, roads, railroad bed, and building like madmen. Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #2 - 2010-04-05 19:16 - (Reply)
That might mean something except that passenger rail has never been profitable in the US but freight has. And due to the differences in distance involved ignoring passenger rail makes much more sense than not. But it should be noted that the US, even taking into account the differences in population, has almost 3 times the miles of rails as Germany. But the telling point is that the US has 17 times the number of airports and over ten times the number of miles available via roads. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #3 - 2010-04-05 20:37 - (Reply)
Christine Lagarde was saying what the rest of EU thinks (as usual France is still the alone voice that dares to point on the disturbings things, ie 2003 for Irak war). Germany benefitted of the EU, and especially of the inflated eurozone for selling its goods, which made the Meditrranean Club useful to absorb german exportations at thee glorious times. Now that the toy is going to be broken, I suppose that these EU failing countries will have no more means to buy german. In the meanwhile Germany didn't buy goods from the Mediterranean club, but preferred to import from lower labor forces countries, I was amazed to see in Spain and Portugal, Germans (still with their habits to consumerise at lower prices, buying tomatoes from Marroco, or from whatever EU outsiders countries),going to stores like Lidl, Aldi, Netto... whereas supermarkets like Auchan, Carrefour, Intermarchés were invested by Nationals. It's not because they didn't want to buy spanish or portugese, but because of their own revenues that have been blocated for a decade, which allowed a lower cost of labour force about 15% lesser than in the eurozone, thus making Germany more competitive for exportations. In the long term, this policy will return against Germany itself, as their main customers are going bankrupted. Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #3.1 - 2010-04-06 00:23 - (Reply)
The larges purchaser of goods from Germany is France(10.2%), then almost a tie between the Netherlands, the US and the UK. While its greatest amount of imports are coming from the Netherlands(8.5%). Hardly any of those countries low cost sources or purchasers. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #3.1.1 - 2010-04-06 05:42 - (Reply)
http://lekiosque.finances.gouv.fr/Appchiffre/Etudes/Thematiques/A2009.pdf Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #3.2 - 2010-04-06 16:43 - (Reply)
The arab world is already saturated with Euro-imports, especially from Greece, France, and Germany. Ironically, you see things imported that are made domestically too, such as foodstuffs and the like. The probelm is one of assymetrical trade barriers where a Lebanese farmer or prepared foods company finds himself unable to compete with Nestle, even though their goods fill the shelves in Lebanon, and unable even to sell their goods in fortress Europe. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #3.2.1 - 2010-04-06 17:13 - (Reply)
funny that you can only quote Lebanon as an arab country ! do you know that they are bilingual, (or trilingual nowadays, english is als spoken) they speak also french like you, and most of them have parents in France or in America. Nestly isn't anymore a typical french product, as the company is "global", they even have a base in America ! I still remember a lybian blogger who said that she loves the "vache qui rit"... Besides, North Africa also speak french, apart Egypt, Jordan, Lybia ! and sorry, that we are a agricultural country, that has green fields when others have sands and rocks ! or soils that are suitable for growing corn or grapevine. But Marroco does grow tomatoes, early potatoes, strawberries... Now I'm not inventing the labels Lidl, Netto, Aldi, that are of german origin, and if they can afford low prices, it's because they import from low labour prices countries, Marroco was quoted only European countries make the rest. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #3.2.1.1 - 2010-04-06 17:17 - (Reply)
" Marroco was quoted only European countries make the rest." Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #3.2.1.2 - 2010-04-06 17:34 - (Reply)
Do I know they're bilingual? Do I realize that they don't raise cows? Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #3.2.1.2.1 - 2010-04-06 17:43 - (Reply)
yeah, and you're convincing ! I know and read quite a few lebanese bloggers since quite a while ! Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #4 - 2010-04-06 09:14 - (Reply)
I'm not to sure why these links were provided since they essentially show that the bulk of German imports are coming not from low wage producers but countries that are traditionally considered as providing high value goods. China is indeed in the top five but imports mostly consumer goods while Russia imports into Germany are overwhelmingly petroleum products. The claim that Germany, "... preferred to import from lower labor forces countries." Germany is paying top dollar for high quality imports from countries that are not by any stretch of the imagination lowcost. This claim is simply not born out by the statistics unless France and the Netherlands are now considered to have developing economies. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #4.1 - 2010-04-06 17:26 - (Reply)
yeah before the adjunction of the eastern EU countries, France used to be the main agricultural supplier ,all right ! though importation in EU, doesn't say if they are from Romania, Bulgaria,Hungary Poland... ah breaking news, Renault is goingg to be associated with daimler, for the electric cars ! Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #4.1.1.1 - 2010-04-06 17:45 - (Reply)
tiens donc, then of what are you talking about ? Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #5 - 2010-04-06 15:39 - (Reply)
Who made this 'racist' comment about the Greeks. The Deputy PM Theodoros Pangelos or the Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble? Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #5.1 - 2010-04-06 17:33 - (Reply)
Bild relied 65 % of the voices like Schaeuble Comments ()
Pat Patterson
- #5.1.1 - 2010-04-06 18:24 - (Reply)
You should have checked first as the quote is from the Greek Deputy PM Pangelos. Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #5.1.1.1 - 2010-04-06 19:30 - (Reply)
aber nein, es war Schlarmann Comments ()
Joe Noory
- #5.1.2 - 2010-04-06 23:04 - (Reply)
Do you really think the rest of the world cares about the minor technicalities of who sells who what inside the EU? Seriously - do you really think it's should matter on a blog meant to discuss transatlantic relations? Comments ()
Marie Claude
- #5.1.2.1 - 2010-04-06 23:17 - (Reply)
then what are you doing but not being after me me me me me. Looks like you would want to close my mouth (like on your blog) on any appreciation about EU policies. Sure you know better than us that are living in Europe, also, if the Blog owner didn't appreciate my interventions, he would have likely banned my IP, so far I get emails for warning me that new topics are on ! Comments ()
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