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Obama the Atlanticist?Posted by Nanne Zwagerman in Transatlantic Relations, US Foreign Policy on Saturday, December 6. 2008
Before the details of Barack Obama's foreign policy team started to emerge, I had expected that his administration would take a global approach to foreign policy and security challenges, and would not necessarily engage Europe first. This perception was fleshed out in the Atlantic Review post 'Obama the Catalyst' by Don, and my post on the Berlin speech, 'Obama keeps it Global'.
The foreign policy people Obama is surrounding himself with speak more for an accelerated renaissance of the transatlantic alliance than anything else. Hillary Clinton, the next Secretary of State, was more interested in Europe than Obama during the primaries for the Democratic nomination, as Christian Andreas Morris wrote at the time on the Atlantic Community. Moreover, her husband's administration had most of its high profile foreign policy engagements in Europe. Insofar as Hillary Clinton received foreign policy experience through 'osmosis', Europe looms large in her frame of reference. Matthew Yglesias has noted that the main thing about retired general James L. Jones, Obama's National Security Advisor, is that no one really knows what his views are. It is not too hard to find out some of those views, however, as Jones delivered a number of speeches when he was SACEUR from 2003 to 2006, which can be found on the SHAPE website. A few more pieces can be found on the website of the Atlantic Council of the Unites States, of which Jones is currently the chairman. You just don't get more atlanticist than Jim Jones. He grew up in France, speaks the language, and spent his years as SACEUR in Brussels on a mission to transform NATO. In his farewell address as SACEUR he said: I love this Alliance. I love what it stands for. I love for the inherent goodness of its people. I love the inherent example that the members of the Alliance set for the world over. And I think it's a wonderful, vibrant organisation that is alive. Alive and prosperous and going to make tremendous contributions, the likes of which perhaps none of us can even imagine in this 21st Century. Now, Obama has held a presser in which he effectively stated "change comes from me". And I've read a lot of bloggers who have written that this or that appointment does not matter that much because these people are going to be carrying out policy, not so much shaping it. On foreign policy, there are good reasons to think these appointments do signify something about policy.
First, Obama has a huge domestic agenda which he will have to spend a lot of time on if he wants to be successful. In spite of the awesomeness of Obama who can carry out telephone diplomacy with Kenya while he's on the campaign trail, he is still human and doesn't have more hours in his week than any of us. He's not going to be able to micromanage his foreign policy. Second, it can matter a great deal whether the first thought on the mind of the people he talks to is 'who do we involve in this?' or 'how do we involve Europe in this?' Third, Jim Jones was notable within NATO for driving its transformation from a reactive alliance focused on defence towards a more pro-active force focused on providing security. He made plentiful use of Obama's stock phrase, change, before it was hip: The rest of that speech does deliver specifics and is well worth reading, by the way. It seems plausible that the Jones pick signals that Obama is not just vaguely looking to patch up NATO, but is serious about completing its as of yet imperfect transformation. Bob Gates, the returning Secretary of Defence, does not really complement this picture. We'll see Gates and some European countries in a familiar adversarial role during the next NATO summit, as he'll be pushing the Bush line on Georgian and Ukrainian membership. The question is to what extent he is going to run foreign policy. Welcome! You are reading the ATLANTIC REVIEW -- a Press Digest on Transatlantic Relations combined with commentary and analysis by three young professionals from Germany, the Netherlands and the United States. More about us. The horizontal menu bar at the top helps to navigate this site. Subscribe to one of our RSS-Feeds or to our newsletter, which is emailed twice per month.Trackbacks
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David
- #1 - 2008-12-01 18:03 - (Reply)
The appointment of Susan Rice as UN ambassador is also significant. Obama has elevated this to a cabinet position which means he is serious about revitalizing America's role in that body. The implications for the "Atlantic Alliance" are less clear, except that Rice will be energetic in marshaling European support for humanitarian interventions.
Pamela
- #1.1 - 2008-12-02 18:42 - (Reply)
except that Rice will be energetic in marshaling European support for humanitarian interventions.
A_GUY
- #1.1.1 - 2008-12-03 08:51 - (Reply)
Darfur?
Marie Claude
- #1.1.1.1 - 2008-12-03 14:25 - (Reply)
may-be a guy reads the wrong news, or listen to the neo-c sirens
Pamela
- #1.1.1.2 - 2008-12-03 15:34 - (Reply)
I'm not passing judgement on the idea A_GUY. It's just that I recntly read a piece about how Rice, while in the Clinton admin, was so appalled at what happened in Rwanda and I thought maybe Darfur may have the same effect.
Joe Noory
- #1.1.1.3 - 2008-12-03 19:00 - (Reply)
The "Idea"? The big-ol-pretend superpower that is what were the European powers insisted 4 years ago that they were going to "rapidly deploy" to Europe. In the 4 years since then, they have spent the entire time trying to get someone to commit a half dozen helicopters, and get developing country "partners" to stay as a military component after the photo-op.
Marie Claude
- #1.1.1.3.1 - 2008-12-03 20:08 - (Reply)
that's funny, not so long time ago you were sayin it'all but french colonial policy !!!
Joe Noory
- #1.1.1.3.1.1 - 2008-12-04 17:54 - (Reply)
When did I say that? I don't think I've ever used the term "colonial policy" at this site at all.
Marie Claude
- #1.1.1.3.1.1.1 - 2008-12-04 18:20 - (Reply)
yeah, Alzheimer schon da !!!!
Joe Noory
- #1.1.1.3.1.1.1.1 - 2008-12-06 18:38 - (Reply)
And it's necessary to lie about what I've said to be proud of your country? There has to be more than that.
Marie Claude
- #1.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1 - 2008-12-06 21:22 - (Reply)
what lies ? OK those which you don't agree with !!!
microgod
- #2 - 2008-12-01 19:17 - (Reply)
General James L. Jones was everywhere: Vietnam, Near East, Iraq, Afghanistan. Very impressing.
A_GUY
- #2.1 - 2008-12-03 09:03 - (Reply)
Very impressive ! General James L. Jones appears everywhere: Vietnam, Near East, Iraq, Afghanistan. where there is trouble ,the Fireman (James L. Jones) pops up there.
Don S
- #3 - 2008-12-01 20:50 - (Reply)
Fred Barnes points out that the tilt of Obama' major cabinet appointments thus far is distinctly rightward.
Don S
- #3.1 - 2008-12-01 20:53 - (Reply)
Oops, here is the link to Fred Barnes I mentioned above:
Detlef
- #3.3 - 2008-12-03 00:20 - (Reply)
He grew up in France, speaks the language, and spent his years as SACEUR in Brussels on a mission to transform NATO.
Don S
- #3.3.1 - 2008-12-03 00:54 - (Reply)
John Kerry was a substandard Prsidential nominee in so many ways I won't bother to quantify it, but speaking French wasn't one of them. There were better choices for Secretary of State this year, one of whom Obama chose. But had Obama tabbed Kerry I wouldn't have argued with the choice.
Detlef
- #3.3.1.1 - 2008-12-03 02:27 - (Reply)
John Kerry was a substandard Presidential nominee in so many ways I won't bother to quantify it, but speaking French wasn't one of them.
Pat Patterson
- #3.3.2 - 2008-12-04 02:25 - (Reply)
There was another famous American general, Gen George Patton, who spoke French fluently and when he was put in charge of some areas of France to administrate near the end of the war and after immediately complained that he needed to bring the Nazi trained bureacrats back in because the French seemed incapable of picking up a brick off the street. It wasn't the fact that Sen Kerry spoke French that bothered people it was the idea that speaking French made him something special as opposed to being merely fluent in Spanish, as is Pres. Bush, which a heck of a lot more of our neighbors speak than French.
Marie Claude
- #3.3.2.1 - 2008-12-07 22:32 - (Reply)
There was another famous American general, Gen George "Patton, who spoke French fluently and when he was put in charge of some areas of France to administrate near the end of the war and after immediately complained that he needed to bring the Nazi trained bureacrats back in because the French seemed incapable of picking up a brick off the street".
Don S
- #3.3.2.1.1 - 2008-12-07 23:56 - (Reply)
"why should they ??? we don't need to be invaded !!!"
Pat Patterson
- #3.3.2.1.2 - 2008-12-08 02:58 - (Reply)
Every American general that commanded a division was considered to be the governor-general of whatever territory was in his TO. I wasn't till after the war and sometimes in a few areas considered pacified were the appointments made more to an eye on civilian reconstruction than attack. But Patton as well as Clark and Gavin knew that the sooner the debris was cleared then the faster the reconstruction could commence.
Marie Claude
- #4 - 2008-12-02 02:15 - (Reply)
uh, what will do O with the RAND institute, cuz he has'nt got any money in the house to pay its geedy experts, but seems tha t the Clintons made it quite good with the habits of the FIRM
Pat Patterson
- #4.1 - 2008-12-02 09:10 - (Reply)
It's hard to take a citation seriously when they claim that certain defense companies, "...have been watching their stock rise..." considering that the best of the ones mentioned, Raytheon, has lost 32% of its capitalization. the rest range from Boeing losing 58%, Northrup Grumman losing 45% and Lockheed losing 40%. And it also should be noted that the US military budget will be the second lowest since 1944's high of 37% of GDP compared to the lowest of 3% in 1999 and 2009 FYI of 4%. Plus Obama promised during the primaries to create two new divisions but that promise hasn't been heard of in months and the new NSA, Gen. James Jones, came out against expanding the military now but then he also predicted the surge in Iraq wouldn't work either. Jones has had a distinguished career but was shuffled off to Brussels because he couldn't keep his mouth shut and was not seen as having the right experience of temperment to become a member of the JCS. But unlike Susan Rice he was not sent to the shallow end of the pool with bright orange floatation wings on his arms like she has by accepting the UN post.
Don S
- #4.1.1 - 2008-12-02 10:51 - (Reply)
Well but Raytheon has actually been outperforming the markets this year, especially when one considers stellar performers like the auto companies. So a 32% drop actually counts as a huge rise, in dog years or something..... ;)
nanne
- #4.1.2 - 2008-12-02 12:04 - (Reply)
Pat, I don't get what you're saying about Jones. When did he oppose the surge? Sure, Fred Barnes said he did, but I tried to find a statement of the sort and couldn't find anything.
Pat Patterson
- #5 - 2008-12-02 17:11 - (Reply)
I'll have to backtrack a bit because I also couldn't find his comment on the surge except the had had argued that troops should have been sent to Afghanistan instead and that the surge hadn't worked as of late 2007 and early 2008.
Detlef
- #5.1 - 2008-12-03 01:28 - (Reply)
I'll have to backtrack a bit because I also couldn't find his comment on the surge except the had had argued that troops should have been sent to Afghanistan instead and that the surge hadn't worked as of late 2007 and early 2008.
Pat Patterson
- #5.1.1 - 2008-12-03 04:06 - (Reply)
I'm not to sure if you have thought through your comment concerning catching the leadership of the Taliban or al Qaeda as that would have entailed a ground invasion of Pakistan. The tactics that worked in Afghanistan of using the Northern Alliance would have been a miserable failure in the much better organized, equipped and trained Pakistani military.
Sebastian
- #6 - 2008-12-02 20:51 - (Reply)
I would not be so optimistic about Obama's impact on the transatlantic relations. I actually believe that it will be the exact opposite and that the transatlantic divide will deepen considerably under his time in office:
Jean
- #7 - 2008-12-03 09:46 - (Reply)
Good job demolishing Detlef Pat! Let me just add one more thing - Shinseki was not thrown out for saying something Bush didn't want to hear. Rumsfeld canceled some heavy weapon systems that didn't mesh with his idea of an expeditionary force structure, and Shinseki and then Secretary of the Army White went behind Rumsfeld's back to Congress to try and get the Crusader artillery system reinstated. Rumsfeld wanted to fire Shinseki immediately, but given that Shinseki was well-connected in Congress, settled for naming his successor earlier than is the norm. Shinseki did serve out his full term, but pointing out facts to lefties is usually a waste of time - so why do I bother? Add Comment
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