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How Intelligent are Stratfor's "Intelligence Professionals"?Posted by Joerg Wolf in Transatlantic Relations on Wednesday, August 27. 2008 Stratfor describes itself as "the world's leading online publisher of geopolitical intelligence. Our global team of intelligence professionals provides our Members with insights into political, economic, and military developments to reduce risks, to identify opportunities, and to stay aware of happenings around the globe." These intelligence professionals have learned from their super-secret "sources" that "Russia has offered Germany a security agreement." Oooh, that sounds like a great conspiracy.
Stratfor has this totally insightful and historically correct analysis:
Yep, Hitler came to power because Germany was politically so united and economically so wealthy, that Germans did not pay attention to politics, but watched soap operas on plasma TVs and chatted on iPhones throughout the Weimar Republic. Are the employees at Stratfor, which used to have a solid reputation, now smoking the same stuff as the guys at The Trumpet? The Trumpet wrote the about "Berlin's Secret Pact With Moscow":
Yep, and the rapture is scheduled for 9/9/09 according to bible prophecy. Perhaps Stratfor and The Trumpet try to make money by fear mongering. Am I too harsh? No, I don't think so. If German publications would write similar nonsense about the US, it would be considered evil Anti-Americanism by hundreds of US blogs. My response is much more laid back: I don't accuse these guys of Anti-German attitudes (well, perhaps I should). Rather I just assume that fear mongering is their business model. They have to do it in order to compete in the wonderful free market economy. It's not "Anti-Germanism." It's business, not personal. And I totally respect that. Capitalism is harsh. It's not as easy as in these socialist European countries, where the welfare state provides the citizens with everything, including a four months long vacation paid for by Gazprom. The Trumpet has also just published this: Russia, Germany and Europe's Future. And in February 2007, the Atlantic Review reported about The Trumpet's warning of "the rekindling of a romance between Germany and the U.S." in Do Not Get Fooled by Transatlantic Love The above mentioned Stratfor article is available for subscribers only, but you can access it, if you come to their site via google: Just google the headline "Germany: Merkel's Choice and the Future of Europe." Or visit finchannel, which has republished the article. Endnote: I am curious what kind of "contextually relevant" ads will show up now. A kit to prepare for the rapture or the next Russian-German attack of the United States? Welcome! You are reading the ATLANTIC REVIEW -- a Press Digest on Transatlantic Relations combined with commentary and analysis by three young professionals from Germany, the Netherlands and the United States. More about us. The horizontal menu bar at the top helps to navigate this site. Subscribe to one of our RSS-Feeds or to our newsletter, which is emailed twice per month.Trackbacks
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- #1 - 2008-08-28 23:31 - (Reply)
In the old days you could only get this kind of analysis from some guy handing out pamphlets on a street corner. Isn't the Internet wonderful?
Kevin Sampson
- #3 - 2008-08-29 01:27 - (Reply)
'If German publications would write similar nonsense about the US, it would be considered evil Anti-Americanism by hundreds of US blogs.'
Joerg - Atlantic Review
- #3.1 - 2008-08-29 07:21 - (Reply)
Okay, I should have written "when" instead of "if"
Pat Patterson
- #3.1.1 - 2008-08-29 09:21 - (Reply)
Joerg-There are literally dozens of blogs in Germany and in the US that believe and print much the same predictions. Compared to Rev. Armstrong how lucid do any of the predictions of Sec. Kruschev to bury the West sound today. Or Nasser claiming that Egypt alone could sweep the Zionists overnight from Palestine. Besides quoting as definitive speeches of millenium apocolyptic sects in America is just as accurate as quoting Scientologists in Germany.
Fuchur
- #3.2 - 2008-08-29 11:03 - (Reply)
Don't spread fairy-tales, please. If you're talking about that one documentary that was featured on a certain anti-German blog a while ago, then let's not forget that it debunked the most popular 9/11 conspiracy theories.
Kevin Sampson
- #3.2.1 - 2008-08-29 15:25 - (Reply)
"then let's not forget that it debunked the most popular 9/11 conspiracy theories."
Fuchur
- #3.2.1.1 - 2008-08-29 16:23 - (Reply)
Which ones are 'the most popular 9/11 conspiracy theories'?
Zyme
- #4 - 2008-08-29 02:33 - (Reply)
I have to admit that I had read about Stratfor for the first time when I came across that article - so I cannot judge their credibility at all.
Zyme
- #4.1.1 - 2008-08-29 10:35 - (Reply)
Schroeder provided the foundation of a new Ostpolitik. Now would be the time to build upon this foundation.
Anonymous
- #5 - 2008-08-29 09:17 - (Reply)
And in there latest email from August 27th, Stratfor writes:
Fuchur
- #6 - 2008-08-29 11:10 - (Reply)
Obviously the Stratfor guys are smoking some really good stuff...
Joerg - Atlantic Review
- #6.1 - 2008-08-29 18:00 - (Reply)
Thanks for the info.
Fuchur
- #6.1.1 - 2008-08-29 19:30 - (Reply)
Oh - I hope you didn't take them down on my account! I mean, the ads aren't offensive or anything... and internet advertising has a tendency to be silly anyway. I just thought it was funny...
John in Michigan, USA
- #7 - 2008-08-29 17:08 - (Reply)
I can see how the Stratfor statement could be quite offensive. Although Germany today is unified, prosperous, and strong (as was true in 1939), there are so many relevant differences that the comparison is absurd. Reading the Stratfor article (nice work Joerg getting us a free copy of the article), I don't detect any anti-German rhetoric; the tone seems coldly analytical rather than harshly partisan. I think they offended out of thoughtlessness, not malice.
Joerg - Atlantic Review
- #7.1 - 2008-08-29 18:14 - (Reply)
Thanks, John
John in Michigan, USA
- #7.1.1 - 2008-08-29 21:22 - (Reply)
"I thought that parts of the realist school have evolved and now accept organizations like the EU and Germany's ties ("constraints") within it."
Zyme
- #7.1.1.1 - 2008-08-30 10:50 - (Reply)
I would not argue that personal characters of leaders do not influence the conduct of foreign politics. Here the difference of Schroeder to Merkel is perfect proof.
John in Michigan, USA
- #7.1.1.1.1 - 2008-08-31 02:37 - (Reply)
Zyme,
Don S
- #8 - 2008-08-29 23:41 - (Reply)
"Germans did not pay attention to politics, but watched soap operas on plasma TVs and chatted on iPhones throughout the Weimar Republic."
Anonymous
- #9 - 2008-08-29 23:46 - (Reply)
Joerg, in Stratfor's defense is the fact that there is a lot of sentiment for such a German-Russian agreement in Germany today. Look at Herr Bonnenberg over on AC and Zymne here.
Alexander
- #9.1 - 2008-08-30 04:04 - (Reply)
Oh, come on. Germany, my country, has neigbours. 9 direct neighbours and lots of more in the close vicinity. The USA don't have neighbours. There's just Canada and So-close-to-the-USA-so-far-away-from-God-Mexico in the hood. The generation of my grandparents had to learn it the hard way: you can't shove around your neighbours for nothing. You have to make a living with your neighbours. Particularly if it's yewr neighbours you depend on for resources. If you want to make a living you need the assistance of your neighbours and there will be a direct feedback, when you slap them in their face. But only because you DON'T slap them in their face, it doesn't mean RAPALLO RAPALLO (Prhps it means GASPROM GASPROM, but i most devinitively won't vote for SPD-GAZPROM-RWE anymore -- just as a sidenote :-)). Using the words Molotow-Ribbentrop or Rapallo from tne US side just means, they read a book. It does not mean, they understood how it works or how it is.
joe
- #10 - 2008-08-30 06:34 - (Reply)
Joerg,
Joerg - Atlantic Review
- #10.1 - 2008-08-30 12:06 - (Reply)
Equally you pick a very small portion of these articles to discredit thinking you have discredited the entire article. Really it is all very predictable.
Detlef
- #10.1.1 - 2008-08-30 23:21 - (Reply)
Not to mention that it´s not the only stupid statement:
Detlef
- #10.1.2 - 2008-08-30 23:46 - (Reply)
Many within the German government released statements in favor of either Russia or Georgia, but it is Merkel who calls the shots in the country — and she was waiting for her meeting with Medvedev before speaking.
Detlef
- #10.2 - 2008-09-03 01:32 - (Reply)
If your precious Stratfor "intelligence product" can´t even get the facts right (Germany´s major trade partners, Germany´s major natural gas suppliers), why in the world should I take their analysis seriously?
Detlef
- #11 - 2008-08-31 01:06 - (Reply)
That Stratfor article makes no sense at all. In fact it´s totally illogical.
Marie Claude
- #12 - 2008-09-02 13:54 - (Reply)
Stratfor has yet emulators, or ????????? Add Comment
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