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Political Segregation Increases Culture Wars in AmericaPosted by Joerg Wolf in US Domestic and Cultural Issues on Sunday, June 22. 2008
"Americans are increasingly choosing to live among like-minded neighbours. This makes the culture war more bitter and politics harder," writes The Economist
Residential segregation is not the only force Balkanising American politics, frets Mr Bishop. Multiple cable channels allow viewers to watch only news that reinforces their prejudices. The internet offers an even finer filter. Websites such as conservativedates.com or democraticsingles.net help Americans find ideologically predictable mates. And the home-schooling movement, which has grown rapidly in recent decades, shields more than 1m American children from almost any ideas their parents dislike. Why is this voluntary segregation bad for politics? Because: Voters in landslide districts tend to elect more extreme members of Congress. (...) America, says Mr Bishop, is splitting into "balkanised communities whose inhabitants find other Americans to be culturally incomprehensible." He has a point. Republicans who never meet Democrats tend to assume that Democrats believe more extreme things than they really do, and vice versa. This contributes to the nasty tone of many political campaigns. (...) UPDATE: Susan Jacoby, the author of "The Age of American Unreason", wrote the Op-Ed "Talking to ourselves" in the Los Angeles Times (HT: David): Whether watching television news, consulting political blogs or (more rarely) reading books, Americans today have become a people in search of validation for opinions that they already hold. This absence of curiosity about other points of view is the essence of anti-intellectualism and represents a major departure from the nation's best cultural traditions.Whatever the party affiliations of all the above mentioned authors might be, I think their main point is bipartisan and refers to a negative national development, which cannot be blamed on just one side. It is not just the right that gets more segregated. The left does it as well. America's domestic "culture war" is stronger than the disagreements in Europe, but Europe is usually a few years behind anyway... And the term "Balkanization" obviously comes from the old continent. Welcome! You are reading the ATLANTIC REVIEW -- a Press Digest on Transatlantic Relations combined with commentary and analysis by three young professionals from Germany, the Netherlands and the United States. More about us. The horizontal menu bar at the top helps to navigate this site. Subscribe to one of our RSS-Feeds or to our newsletter, which is emailed twice per month.Trackbacks
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Pat Patterson
- #1 - 2008-06-22 15:10 - (Reply)
This will be a first for me as I have never criticized the choice of a topic till today. I can only ask why alarm bells didn't go off when the first example of a self-selecting group was Ron Paul supporters? Do they need to live near each other so that they can finally get that blimp off the ground? That lawyer might want to brush up on the history of Maryland because it was founded as a safe haven for Catholics fleeing persecution in England and Canada as well as being the only state in the Union during the Civil War that kept slavery until after 1865. Oddly enough it was also the last state after the Revolution that overrode some counties and ended taxing all citizens to support the Catholic Church. To describe the other side of the James as the "Confederacy" as glib and stupid is an understatement, satisfying to the lawyer and playing to the worst stereotypes of the writer.
Joerg - Atlantic Review
- #1.1 - 2008-06-22 16:09 - (Reply)
Pat,
Joe Noory
- #1.1.1 - 2008-06-22 17:44 - (Reply)
Joerg:
Joerg - Atlantic Review
- #1.1.1.1 - 2008-06-22 18:18 - (Reply)
What I don't understand is why you and Pat focus about "the big sort" authors Bishop and Cushing alleged Democratic agenda. QUOTE: America, says Mr Bishop, is splitting into "balkanised communities whose inhabitants find other Americans to be culturally incomprehensible." As netizens we know that "communities" are not just local neighborhoods, but include online communities as well... And we know how partisan the MSM and the blogs are. Hardly any Democrats read the Weekly Standard, the politics section of the Wall Street Journal and Instapundit. And when they do, then with the goal of criticizing them later on in their own community (blogs, friends etc). And vice versa. Do you know any popular political blogs (i.e. in the top 100 on technorati or other charts) where Democrats and Republicans write posts and comments? Or to quote from the Economist again: QUOTE: Multiple cable channels allow viewers to watch only news that reinforces their prejudices. The internet offers an even finer filter. All of this is true for both liberals and conservatives, thus I don't understand why you focus on critizing Bishops alleged partisan agenda. Isn't he equally critizing the Democrats? Take Dailykos. Nothing like it exists on the right. The liberals/progressives are more centralized then the conservatives. The conservative blogosphere is bigger than the liberal blogosphere and consists of a huge number of blogs that are independent from each other. Dailykos is a single platform for liberal "diary" writers. But then you got the right-wing talk radio. Only conservatives are on those stations. Very little discussion with liberals, who are only as punching bags sometimes online? Or am I wrong? Perhaps I exaggerate due to the lack of observations "in the field." So, please take my writing here as questions to you all.
Joe Noory
- #1.1.1.1.1 - 2008-06-22 20:10 - (Reply)
[blockquote]America, says Mr Bishop, is splitting into "balkanised communities whose inhabitants find other Americans to be culturally incomprehensible."[/blockquote]
Joe Noory
- #1.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2008-06-22 21:46 - (Reply)
Not unlike the "Jesusland" map, which was the sole intellectual property of the fringe of the party that lost. That's the illustration that appeared in the NYT, by the way.
Joerg - Atlantic Review
- #1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2008-06-22 22:35 - (Reply)
Really... what are you going to do about this alleged problem and why would you bother? To TAKE AWAY speech rights?
Joe Noory
- #1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2008-06-23 02:25 - (Reply)
That we reference was rhetorical. What lessons can Scott McLellan's recent employment pitch tell us about this issue? Zilch.
quo vadis
- #1.1.1.1.2 - 2008-06-22 21:55 - (Reply)
Joerg,
Joerg - Atlantic Review
- #1.1.1.1.2.1 - 2008-06-22 22:25 - (Reply)
I agree with what you say about the outspoken fringes. It is easy to exaggerate their influence, esp. from over here in Europe.
influx
- #1.1.1.2 - 2008-06-22 18:41 - (Reply)
"slick, hollywood stage-managed, well funded left"
Pat Patterson
- #2 - 2008-06-22 16:55 - (Reply)
Fifteen yers ago? Certainly not as most of the changes that occurred then and subsequently had more to do with ousting Democrats from office in districts where the voters were and had become Republicans. But owing to the advantages of incumbency it takes years in some areas, decades actually, to effect this change.
Joerg - Atlantic Review
- #2.1 - 2008-06-22 17:59 - (Reply)
@ Pat
David
- #3 - 2008-06-22 18:05 - (Reply)
Well, I think The Economist is on to something that is very real. Americans have become more close-minded and less willing to entertain opposing points of view. The author Susan Jacoby wrote about this in a recent op/ed piece:Talking To Ourselves:
Joe Noory
- #3.1 - 2008-06-22 20:26 - (Reply)
Jacoby does a beautiful job of making my point. Her examples leave one with the impression that no leftist has ever shouted anyone down, or shut anyone out.
David
- #3.1.1 - 2008-06-23 02:15 - (Reply)
You are wrong about Jacoby and obviously haven't read her books. She is a cultural conservative. Actually, you make her point quite well. You already know all about her and her views without actually reading her work. You may want to start with "The Age of American Unreason".
Pat Patterson
- #3.1.1.1 - 2008-06-23 03:20 - (Reply)
Susan Jacoby describes herself as a secularist and an atheist. So the assumption I can make is that David, though probably well meant, is using the term cultural conservaive because she is more closely aligns herself with a European conservatism that is elitist and statist and is convinced that the US is going to hell in a handbasket.
Joerg - Atlantic Review
- #3.1.1.1.1 - 2008-06-23 06:38 - (Reply)
"a European conservatism that is elitist and statist and is convinced that the US is going to hell in a handbasket."
Pat Patterson
- #3.1.1.1.1.1 - 2008-06-23 11:32 - (Reply)
In retrospect that was badly stated since I meant that it seems the European conservative is convinced EUROPE is going to hell in a handbasket. Of course without acknowledging that they sometimes seem nostalgic for is the man on the white horse while at the same time bemoaning the rise of middle class values and concerns.
influx
- #3.1.1.1.1.1.1 - 2008-06-23 12:04 - (Reply)
I'm still not sure what you're talking about. Can you give an example of such a European conservative?
Joe Noory
- #3.1.1.2 - 2008-06-23 15:51 - (Reply)
For being that silly, I withdraw my offer of marriage. Want "unreason"? Thy to understand these vague, unexplained complaints of a "someone should to DO something about this" nature:
Zyme
- #4 - 2008-06-22 20:12 - (Reply)
"Americans are increasingly choosing to live among like-minded neighbours. This makes the culture war more bitter and politics harder."
Pat Patterson
- #5 - 2008-06-22 20:48 - (Reply)
I thought I was pointing out that congressional districts change either from new populations moving in or like Detroit where every sane person, black and white, has simply left the city regardless of political position.
Joerg - Atlantic Review
- #5.1 - 2008-06-22 21:14 - (Reply)
NOI are the Louis Farrakhan folks, right?
Joe Noory
- #5.1.1 - 2008-06-22 22:45 - (Reply)
Yes. There movement went into collapse when they tried to go mainstream after the "million man march".
Sue
- #6 - 2008-06-23 05:02 - (Reply)
Americans have always been able to move away from people they dislike. It's still possible today. I don't see anything new or different in this tendency of groups to form around ideological or cultural shared tastes. Utopian communities, lifestyle enclaves, towns like the Catholic compound Ave Maria in Florida (funded by the Domino's Pizza founder) all flourish and will continue to do so. What I think is in the mainstream media, there is no longer an establishment voice that dictates polite "mainstream" discourse. We are in a transition where the old, vaguely liberal Northeast cultural establishment is no longer powerful and it's not clear which group, if any, is going to take its place. Media are fragmented. Blogs are still a minority pastime and dominated by urban educated people, hence the Democratic bias. Most Americans, however, still watch TV or listen to talk radio. Lou Dobbs and Sean Hannity are a lot more politically and culturally influential than the Daily Kos or Instapundit.
Pat Patterson
- #6.1 - 2008-06-23 05:47 - (Reply)
Lou Dobbs? I must be wasting my time because the only programs I listen to on the radio are Jonesy's Jukebox and the unfortunately named Reggae Smoke In. And I don't smoke the ganja!
David
- #7 - 2008-06-23 21:53 - (Reply)
Why not start a "Transatlantic Book Club" where we can read and discuss a book each month, alternating from a left/right perspective? Ideally, we should choose books that are also available in German.
Joerg - Atlantic Review
- #7.1 - 2008-06-23 22:36 - (Reply)
Good idea.
joe
- #8 - 2008-06-24 01:16 - (Reply)
interesting that a 2 month old op ed piece by a leftist is considered timely and newsworthy.
James Bass
- #9 - 2008-07-01 21:44 - (Reply)
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