JOE:
As for all that "yucky" war, the fact that defense officials are hawkish is something you actually WANT, as long as they're under civil control.

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Pentagon's hawkish words will spark counter reaction from its enemies. The counter reaction will be exaggerated by highly biased western media as the fresh evidences supporting Pentagon officials security concerns. Pentagon officials is good at fabricating imminent and grave threats in domestic and international shpere. That will validate its astonishing budget and promote its weapon sale.

Joe:

Look - if the IMAGERY bothers you, change the channel, but don't pretend that people who attacked all of US will stop because you pretend they aren't there. We need to fight the small wars we're fighting now to terminate the immediate threats, and necotiate from a position of strength. If you think a soft and reticent image will help that, good for you - I don't plan on helping you get the rest of us killed.

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Western media have great influnce over the world. partly because its colonization and cultrue suppression, India is very good examples , during its thousands of years of evolvement, Hindu language posses the overwhelming edge to other dialect(s) in Hindustan, When British colonized the country , English is the official language .Even after India independence, Hindu elites also intoxicated by their English capability which will distinguish them from grass roots. Maybe that is a progress comparing to India's Caste System worshiping.



The same thing happened in Africa,Latin America, South-east Asia...,Western world take great edge in its propaganda. It's not so easy for me to accept such hegemony in news coverages. "Change the channel" will not solve CNN and BBC's distorted coverages.

Joe, i didn't pretend there is no "terrorists" lurking somewhere attempting to attack Western world. I just want you know the current US government's policy for absolute security without considering other countries' security concerns is not helpful. The best way to enhance US and its alliance security is :

1.Set up a multi-party's dailogue,
2.stop evil axis B'shits .
3.Make written guarantee to convince North Korea and Iran there is no need to develop A-bomb.
4.Respect islamic world and convince them that western world will not challenge their religion belief and their civilization. request them not supporting terrorists in return.

I know hawkish hardliner is more populous in western world.But their efforts make the whole thing complicated. That's why I think "it is not clear the Munich Security Conference will make things worse or better?"

In China we were encouraged to draw strength and inspiration from history. China government always eulogize its own part in China's progress in a inappropriate way. I personally disbelieve those stuff. But I do evolve a kind of patriotic feeling. Western media call it communist propaganda. I don't think so. Any Chinese people experience or read those history will became a patriot (nationalist in western media).


I do think Britian's crime like colonization,opium trade ,ensalving Chinese and trafficing them into north America is forgivable. How can they blame Chinese people play victims when their looting ,trophy from China is still exhibitting in their museum. Reuter and BBC 's highly biased coverages on Lhasa riots spark great fire in China. Chinese government intentionally water down grass roots anti british feeling. If we can feely express my disgust on Britain's hypocrisy, if I can stone UK embassy and fire its flag emboding colonization, you bet I will do it. Since China is skyrocketly developing and Britain lingering around abysm, I guess one day Chinese people will have the power to let the world know what Britain did in early 20 century and how they escape moral charges. At this time western media possess overwhelming edge.

My son was educated as a patriot instead of a communist believer. I don't know is it better for Britain. I told him China needn't to recapture those things stolen by colonial British by violence, China and Chinese people should use every opportunity to humiliate the old colonizing state.

People who gathered at www.ANTI-CNN.com are basically pro-democacry people. Given that they will not tolerate britain's lies against Chinese people. To these people they distinguish themselves from communist government, when Reuter and BBC spread racist rummor and hatred between Han Chinese people and other ethnic chinese people. they became the most steadfastness to China government's current policy in Tibet. Hatred rooted in some tibetan people (thanks to CIA and British government decades of support) , The hatred will definitely burried in native chinese people. Good luck for Britain's hatred spreading .

original POst from Paterson:

Satire is obviously lost here as there was no referendum merely a seizure then an Orwellian rewriting of history. History does indeed inform but only if that history can be checked and verified not something simply memorized from carefully planned and often changed lesson plans.

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Still No clue , is there a referendum in 1951? By whom ? Which coutry officially support Tibet's independence. I know CIA always cast its shadow there , CIA promote Tibet Independence secretly never openly regonize Tibet's independence.

original POst from Paterson:
Interesting, what natural resources did Hong Kong have apart from an excellent harbor and hundreds of thousands of Chinese, Vietnamese and Cambodians that did not want to be Communists or live in a country ruled by Communists or their descendents.

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Pay attention to my word "resources", when you put adjective "natural" , you narrow the word's ("resources") scope. for example Human Resources is an important wealth. Hong kong 's treasures is another kind of resources. I need to remind you UK government levy tax on Hong kong people as they did in all colonial states.

In my former posts I use the word "resources" , I mainly refer to this fact That high profile officials were all dispatched from London and Hong kong Chinese people have no share in HK government.Paterson , I don't deny that a large number of the low-level officials in HK government are HK Chinese.

original POst from Paterson:
Plus the reasoning that Tibet became part of China because China had been conquered by the Mongols is a bit of a stretch. Especially as Tibet had been independent with its own royal lineage for centuries before Kublai Khan was even a gleam in his father's eye.
The Yuan Dynasty was finished well before the posthumously recognized First Dalai Lama was born in 1391. The first Tibetan spoken of as the Dalai Lama was Sonam Gyatso by one of the Mongolian Khans in 1578. And that identification is arguably a misunderstanding of the meaning of the family name of Sonam Gyatso.

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Mongols conquered historical "China",Capital Beijing. Then Han Chinese people assimilate the nomadic tribe , the Mongol became part of historical "China" until early 20 century. part of Mongol became an independent state.

Ming Dynasty take the place of Yuan Dynasty, Tibet as part of it lasts for hundreds of years. Manchu aristocrat conquer "China" , Chinese lifestyle errod the ruler of Manchu, they were assimilated to Chinese also. In todays China there is no big difference between Han Chinese and Manchu Chinese. Under Manchu's Qing Dynasty Tibet is also
part of China.

Then republic of China(1911 AD), Tibet stay in China family. China's Civil war between Nationalist party and communist party weaken the central government's control over Tibet. But Tibet never cut off umbilical cord with its motherland. No country officially support Tibet's independence so Dalai lama and its local government had to reach an agreement with red China.Dalai lama and Tibet ruling class had surrendered to PLA in 1950. There is no large scale bloody battle happened in Lhasa in 1950.

Tibetan people got its lawful rights to decide its own affairs as the other 55 ethnic people in China did. But it does not lead to sepeartion of China.

At this time Chinese people can not accept western world drived sepeartion. They want to dismember China for more than 200 years. China can not afford giving another chance to western world.

With the development of freedom and democracy , China will provide more space more privacy to all its people (including Tibet Chinese).At that time ,Tibetan autonomy will be more substantial. If Tibet experience such stage and still want independence , I guess Chinese people can be more understanding than they are.


You got to recognize china have more lawful rights to claim Tibet's sovereign than US claim North America , UK claim on Falkland Islands, Australia cliam against Australian aborigines. Canada didn't repect Quebec independence claim for decades and it want to teach China a lesson.Since hypocrisy prevails in western world, China need not echo those HR groups' requests. CHina can negotiate with such dirty HR groups sponsor to make a deal. openness like Gorbachev will not bring in good future to China.

Politic has its way to run.Dirty politicians and paranoid media never end their filthy game. They will exagerrate China communist's once blunders("crime") in cultrue revolution as proof to abet racist clashes. We chinese people all know that tragedy is against all chinese people not specially targeting Tibetan Chinese. All ethnic people In China are equally treated (actually they take advantages to Han Chinese people in many way) because of minority people policy. Tibetan Children , mongolia Children like other ethnic people's Children can receive
free-of-charge education using their own language(minority people language). Western media 's biased coverage will not reach its goal there.